I still use BeIDE mostly over Pe because I didn't yet fix its azerty- unfriendly shortcut handling. I checked it from cvs to have a look at it recently. Fact is the cvs is hosted at BeUnited, which we don't know how long it will last. Shouldn't we put this one in svn ? src/apps or 3rdparty ? IIRC we agreed to have it as default IDE so it'd be src/apps. Wait a minute, wasn't it XEmacs we chose ? :p François.