[hackpgh-discuss] Re: opensource hardware meeting next week

  • From: "j. eric townsend" <jet@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: hackpgh-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:54:00 -0400

One problem is going to be supporting good support material. Everything I've seen so far "only" requires a hot lye bath to remove the support material or some other too-nasty-for-most process.


If there's something as stiff as ABS that can be printed and is also room temp. water soluble and non-toxic, I'd be quite happy.

On 6/13/12 12:15, Matt Stultz wrote:
Slic3r has experimental support for dual extrusion with a dedicated head
for support material.

Dual extrusion is nice and these extruders look like they could make it
much easier for RepRap printers.

Thanks,
Matt

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, j. eric townsend <jet@xxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jet@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Background:
    I have a Mk7 right now and I am not happy with it.  The tension
    system is such a joke that I replicated the Mk6 adjustable tension
    system on the first day.   Since then it's repeatedly jammed, when i
    talked to Mets about it he thought there might be some tiny
    scratches inside the extruder.  I bought some .35mm and .4mm drills
    to try and clean it up or make a new extruder nozzle.

    Right now dual just gets you two colors, not a pro-level supporting
    system for making complex prints.   So while this dual looks cool,
    I'd like to see a bunch of other people using it without any problems.

    I've just spent way too much money on parts and designs that failed
    early on as there had been no field testing.




    On 6/13/12 11:14, Jeremy Herrman wrote:

        What do you guys think about using this extruder for our yet to
        be built
        printer?

        
http://www.kickstarter.com/__projects/qu-bd/open-source-__universal-3d-printer-extruder-__dual-ext
        
<http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/qu-bd/open-source-universal-3d-printer-extruder-dual-ext>

        There are "rewards" for both single and dual extruders with either
        resistor or cartridge heaters. The dual extruder with resistor
        heating
        is $98 - half the price of a Makerbot MK7 single extruder.

        Looks like it would be compatible with pretty much every newer
        printer
        out there. And should ship as soon as the the pledging period is
        over
        (July).

        - Jeremy


        On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:30 PM, j. eric townsend
        <jet@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jet@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
        <mailto:jet@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jet@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:

            This is part of the reason I think it's not a simple
        question and
            actual experience with bots is part of the question.


                2 Comparing the pint quality of your first generation
        Cupcake to
                MakerGear's finely tuned sales tool demo unit is pretty
        absurd.


            Of course his first-generation Mosaic was "tuned", just like any
            production unit taken to a show by a company selling things.
              MakerBot, Stratasys, etc, would have also brought a tuned
        box for
            demos.

            However, my "first generation Cupcake" was hardly that.  It
        runs on
            a Mega, TOM/Gen4 electronics, beefed up replacement steppers
        from
            Lin, bigger power supply, and uses a Mk6 extruder with a custom
            temperature chart. About the only parts that are FG Cupcake
        are the
            case and the Z-plate and the fasteners.

            This is why I asked on the reprap-dev list something like,
        "which
            one is easiest to hack/modify/test for a club or school?"  The
            Cupcake was easy to assemble and turn on but modifying it
        has been a
            challenge for me some days given how many parts are stuffed
        into a
            tiny wooden box.

            I'm willing to at least look at MakerGear's products and designs
            having seen the effort he puts into cranking out a good product.
              Personally I don't see much "hate" for him on the
        reprap-dev list
            and there are plenty of MakerGear parts on Thingiverse and
        the M2
            has some promise. Sure, MakerGear is selling Reprap clones
        (and a
            bunch of other stuff), but it's in a very competitive
        market. If you
            look at the lists on reprap.org <http://reprap.org>
        <http://reprap.org> and on ebay he

            has lots of competition from everyone from grad students to
        "Chinese
            pirates" as some describe them.


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