[guidedogchat] Re: Heyas

  • From: Nadine Lattimore <nadine.lattimore@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 23:25:46 +0100

Julia
I never insinuated that you are stupid or ignorant and I responded to a message 
not you personally, as stated. I am aware that you have a child on the Autism 
spectrum as you already mentioned. 

I stand by my original posting
Nadine Lattimore

> On 8 Jun 2002, at 09:06, "J Kimbell" <whitetiger62@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> I do know that, I'm not stupid, as my son is Autistic, OK? And I know someone 
> on another list who has an autistic daughter, who has to go to a special 
> school and has an autistic support dog but she is not blind.
>  
> Please dont treat me as though I 'm ignorant as I'm not. I only state my 
> opinion, and the woman who brought this up has not told us to the extent of 
> this kid's autism, or even how old, or if she did, then the message did not 
> show up on my com,puter.
>  
> Julia
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nadine Lattimore
> To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:41 PM
> Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: Heyas
> 
> I do not intend to attack you personally Julia, but I must respond
> Firstly Autism is a spectrum disorder with huge variety of effects on 
> individuals. Aspergers is a social disorder not a mental issue, and persons 
> can be highly functional, intelligent and responsible. And indeed co morbid 
> disability guide dog users are not uncommon. 
> Thank you Nadine
> 
>> fI know but coupled with Autism? It sounds madness. We havenjt actually said 
>> my son cant have a guide dog, only that a dog is a full time responsiblity 
>> as we all know and is he mature enough to take on that responsibility? And a 
>> younger child, I dont know the extent of this kid's autism, I could 
>> understand an autistic support dog as I know someone who's daughter has one, 
>> but she has only recently taken on more rsponsibility of this dog and is not 
>> allowed to take it out alone. Untill recnetly she had to had a double lead 
>> attached so her dad would also be holding it. Not sure how the hell this 
>> blind child with austism would work a dog!! Its a live animal we are dealing 
>> with here. And kids with mental issues are not always fully aware of this.
>> Julia
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Vincent Thacker
>> To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 10:40 AM
>> Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: Heyas
>>  
>> More young people in the UK are getting dogs now, too, which hasn't met with 
>> universal approval, but I'd say circumstances alter cases, and if everyone 
>> can make the handling of the dog work well, good luck to them. Some 
>> surprisingly old people are also getting dogs. I did hear of a 96-year old 
>> getting a new dog, which must be a new definition of optimism! On the other 
>> hand, there are unacceptable delays in getting a dog for working-age people 
>> very often, which is the downside.
>> 
>> Vince.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ========================================
>> Message Received: Apr 06 2014, 09:15 PM
>> From: "Nadine Lattimore" 
>> To: "guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" 
>> Cc: 
>> Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: Heyas
>> 
>> Makes much more sense now, hi Katie.
>> Of course everything changes when dealing with a young dog handler,
>> like you said it always seems to be playtime, never mind adding a dog
>> to the equation!
>> I guess attention towards the dog does not have to mean full on
>> playtime. Recess I think you call it could be a great time to burn off
>> some extra energy for all. Then quiet calm interaction such as gentle
>> rub, maybe eye contact or good boy/girl is enough to let dog know you
>> are still there during class. This is just a general idea of how I
>> manage college lectures.
>> It will really depend on how the handler and dog interact in general.
>> How long has the unit been working together? High school would that be
>> changing rooms every 45minutes?
>> Here in Ireland the age has dropped recently from 18 to 16 and I am
>> personally not in favour of this.
>> 
>> Nadine Lattimore
>> 
>> On 5 Apr 2014, at 23:38, Katie Moncelsi wrote:
>> 
>> >>
>> >> A blind child with a guide dog thats attistic? Are you serious? How old is
>> >> this child? My own son is blind and mildly autistic but a guide dog is the
>> >> last thing I'd consider suitable for him until he matures more.
>> > He's very high functioning, I'd guess you'd call him asperger's instead
>> > of autistic. He's 17 years old as well. I probably should have mentioned
>> > the school is a high school as well.
>> >
>> > Katie
>> >
>> 
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