[geocentrism] Re: rotation

From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "geocentrism list" <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:27:03 +1000
Allen I am going to take your analysis a step at a time..  I cannot follow your 
words but this pic says something.  

Here it is again with my comment.



Your boxworld  is absolutely not the true illustration of the world in 
translation around the sun. 



If you had tilted the box so that the green side was pointing as shown in the 
bottom box of your diagram, to show the earth tilt, then you would have to keep 
the green side always tilted, and always pointing in the same direction. 
Instead you have the green side rotating to face the sun throughout.  This does 
not happen.  Regner explained it last year. 



Do you get what I am saying. 



Now I take it fairly that your little camera is on a wheel pivoted to be free 
to spin on its axis as the world translates anually, and spins daily.  ...



First of all we can think about what happens to it as the world does its daily 
rotation..  Paul and everybody else already have demonstrated this. But I think 
we should stumble over this part first, and do it again.... 



Because, if you alter the diagram above as I have indicated is the true 
translation of the world annually, there will be no annual rotation of the 
world, and so the camera will not experience any observed  rotation at all. But 
the sun will see a different part of the earths surface over one year. Ignore 
and remove the daily rotation, the world looking down from above will appear to 
rotate one rev per annum  with respect to the sun. and from an earth observer 
the sun will appear to make one annual orbit around the world in 12 months.



But lets get back to the daily rotation effect. We must assume and try for a 
total frictionless bearing on the camera supporting wheel.. 



This attained, then a camera on a disc facing axially North at the equator will 
not be rotated by the earths alleged movement....An observer at the same 
location will see the camera make one complete revolution in 24 hours.. Like I 
say, thats if the world is spinning. You can demonstrate this by spinning 
gently with a cup of water and a floating object in your hand... 



However getting a wheel with sufficient mass, and with zero bearing friction 
would be hard for you and me....But I like it, and it has a different 
relationship to the aether , to make this worth my further investigation.  



A valid objection based upon my aether inertia theory. described in another 
post,



Looking at diagram called "aether attachment" representing earth from the North 
looking at floating camera orange disc. If the world is rotating towards the 
east against any aether field the angular approach and cutting of the aether 
field will cause the inertia effect which will make the disc keep its 
orientation and thus to an observer it will not turn..  We cannot say ha! the 
earthis stationary...  Look at my diagram where I have aether force field 
radiating out from a centre..of the earth...  and I show this aether rotating 
to the west.. The relationship of angular cutting of the aether field is the 
same and the disc will not turn... So we once again are stalemated.  



I am now proceeding to your other diagrams..  



Phil

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Allen Daves 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:05 AM
  Subject: [geocentrism] rotation


        First: this is how we create a box the will translate around the sun in 
earths supposed orbit
        Second: we can fix a satilite so that it looks at the NCP but 
freefloating such that any real rotation must manifest itself on that 
axis...Phil, this is absolutly true because, otherwise the Grav probe B 
experiment would have failed as well... only the box will translate with the 
earth since it is fixed to the earth via ground stations. However, the 
freefloating satilite is only fixed wrt the box on two of its axis..the third 
axis which runs along the NCP free floats ...it will not translate it must 
roatate if the earth and the box have any kind of orbit tanslation or not. This 
is true because there is nothing to "lock" the satilite in a translation around 
the sun, it free floats in the same way the spining part of a gyroscope would 
freefloats. Remember, the background stars do not move wrt the NCP/axis or in a 
GU they rotate into the same exact position every 23h56m4s thus a net motion of 
0 around the NCP. 





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                  From: Bernie Brauer <bbrauer777@xxxxxxxxx>
                  Subject: [geocentrism] David Icke audio - with hour 2
                  To: "Geocentrism/RealityReviewed" <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                  Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 3:12 PM


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