Dear Phil, Why do you feel you need to do a 'penance'? There isn't anything you can personally do to assuage your sins. That's why Jesus went to the cross, he did it for us. Repent yes but penance is not necessary. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: philip madsen To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:13 PM Subject: [geocentrism] depression "suffer to some extent from depression" Depression is an imaginary desease some men catch from women.. For a cure it is only necessary for a man to imagine he has not got it, and have another beer. The only occasion I get depressed is when I have sinned against God. And a simple honest apology with some prayers for penance quickly fixes that.. Philip.