I'm sorry but I'm afraid I just don't follow you on this matter. I don't understand why you claim to be right and that world affairs prove your case and then on the other hand you feel that a rebuke from me is necessary.
In previous posts, you appear to be practically inferring that depression only exists in the case of unreciprocated love:
"People in this modern age are lacking in intestinal fortitude.. When I was a kid, and the girl of your life just dumped you , you think life is over.. Thats depression.. "Get over it" was the correct treatment.. Today its phenobarbs.. or a shrink."
But this is not necessarily by any means the deepest form of depression around, to isolate it like you have done into just one "mental-condition" shows great misunderstanding, he who doesn't know shouldn't speak. My deepest form of depression took hold in late 2006 and lasted to early 2007, what I had is very difficult to describe, and is certainly not associated with "losing a girl", actually, I met a woman (friend) in 2007 who taught me new positive ways of thinking about pain. My form of depression was so intensely powerful and it was like my whole body was tuned into the suffering of the world entire, it is hard to write about it even now because of the sensations of sorrow it can bring within me.
Remember some of my (rare) forum posts from around that time, they almost dealt solely with the suffering of the world, and frequently mentioned me crying, because quite frankly at that time I could cry without reason spontaneously and profusely, this was depression. But to God I'm thankful for all.
"the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD." (Job 1:21b KJV)
By quoting this, I don't put blame on God for it, but it was allowed and it did however create a great capacity within me to understand others, their situation and above all, it gave me knowledge, because when much younger I would have probably been rudely ignorant of such a condition. How stupid I was, and even now true wisdom is to know you know nothing! - Socrates.
Addressing another part of your email, it certainly seems your advocating natural selection, this I find very strange coming from a believer:
"Now in those days, if they didn't get over it, they died, and so the genetic pool remained pure."
Dear Phillip, truly, this I find quite an alarming sentence. It is so hideously insensitive that it doesn't deserve any more attention. Next you stated:
"Today medicine and foolhardiness is keeping impure genes alive to reproduce, and so today we have soldiers who consider themselves in warfare too valuable an asset to risk life, and so shoot the women and kids of the enemy.. Both sides have this ethic.. They do not fight each other, but wipe oput the other sides women and kids.. For which they get counselling ... heaven forbid they should feel guilty.. .Get over it!.. You do not need faith Paul. a healthy dose of fear with intelligence helps a lot.."
It may be true that soldiers are doing such terrible atrocities, however, it is very foolish of you to link the entropy of chaos in the world to the western world helping people to cope with depression. The two are quite diametrically opposed. Many people with beautiful souls suffer from depression, and these ruthless "macho" thugs in Africa who slaughter are not in any way bothered by their savage acts, the wicked are actually the least likely people to get depressed to the extent that could affect believers. Why? Because the wicked are so pre-occupied with themselves, self-gratification and having a good time that when they exercise their ruthless evil deeds with the goal of succeeding no-matter how many people they stamp on in the process they have no need or cause for depression. Whilst a good-soul can see the suffering in the world, who can be inflicted with suffering by the wicked and feel no immediate hope for any change.
Why is it the wicked (apparently) prosper?
Why do the innocent suffer and all the wicked disgusting people run amok?
Have you met a strong believer who died for his faith?
Have you lost someone through depression?
I sincerely hope that you re-think your position, given the personal testimony of mine here available for all to see on the internet, hopefully, at least it should convince you that depression exists in a deeper form than you've been previously unwilling to admit. What about Job? Why did he suffer? Can you imagine how low he felt? Did he want to die? Was he depressed?
May God bless you.
philip madsen wrote: