Don't worry Paul, I have no real intention of patenting anything...that cost real money. I have to be honest though, I donʼt know which one of your models you are referring too..... I built a model several years ago to simulate some stuff........ However, in any case, as I said before, the diagrams are just a "models" of HC mechanics (angles & rotation/ translation) as per HC ( i donʼt think anyone can really patent HC mechanics only the production specs ie sizes, materials and such) The model is not based on how anyone interprets HC but how HC models HC........................ so you could still make a fortune too :-) Man we are all sitting on a "pot of gold". ..... .....LOL PS I think if anyone tried to pattent a mech "for the purpose of proving HC wrong" they would be laughed out the door.......... without consideration! ----- Original Message ---- From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 1:28:28 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Two spin axes of Earth? Allen D I apologise for troubling you again -- I should have asked the first time. Did your model's mechanical principles look like mine? One of the things I noticed a long time ago is that if you give a definition of a problem to several people requesting solutions, the solutions offerred are invariably similar or at least embody similar principles. Paul D ----- Original Message ---- From: "allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, 13 November, 2007 7:52:19 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Two spin axes of Earth? LOL..Well actualy it is just a model of the HC mechanics (angles and rotation) so im not sure it matters except in the "production"...... :-) ----- Original Message ---- From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 12:43:23 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Two spin axes of Earth? Allen D Can you prove you had your idea before I published mine? Paul D ----- Original Message ---- From: "allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, 13 November, 2007 7:36:56 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Two spin axes of Earth? Actualy the diagrams I posted demonstrate a very similar model that i had but mine was not very compact or pretty i'm affraid (it was downright bulky and ugly) and still required a marry go round or somthing for the annual rotataion .......I don't have a photos of it........I would like and need to build a perfected "streamlined" version that acuated mechanicaly and automated such that there would be no "play" in the mechinim...In fact I think I will patent it and sell'em for a fortune..... so you all better take the diagrams and go build your own before I own the pattent and become filth rich..........LOL..... Ironicaly all of the conditons for star trail photography have alredy been taken, such that if the motion did take place as prescribed by HC it would have shown up on what we alreday have available....... My diagrams are models that you can build to simulate (as long as you use the real polaris) the HC motions in a very short period of time without getting any interferince from the real nightly rotation.... Im working on figuring out the best way/ materials to build this with ----- Original Message ---- From: j a <ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 12:10:57 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Two spin axes of Earth? Allen, Do you have a "backyard" model where you have simulated the HC motion of the earth and recorded start trails? If so, do you have a picture of it? JA... Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now. Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now.