Dear Neville, Thank you for your follow up. I understand your conclusion then is the Catholic Church did not act infallibly in putting together the Bible. This means that none of us have an infallible Bible, including you. So what good is it. Now where do we go for religious doctrine, including doctrine which trumps science. (Catholics of course believe the Bible was infallibly produced). You are now asking me if Pope John Paul II made the Galilei statements. You made the allegations publicly on this forum. So, please figure out and provide us exactly what is the official position of the Catholic Church or withdraw your allegations. Thank you for admitting you are not infallible on religious matters. I appreciate the clear statement. It follows then that everything you say on religious (including Bible) matters could be wrong. You simply have no way of knowing. Since you admit the KJV and NIV can have errors in them, this means they can be in error on the statements regarding geostatic matters. You have no way of really knowing, do you. Regards, Nick. -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Neville Jones [mailto:ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:17 PM To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Several posts Dear Nick, You said that, "Thank you for your follow up. Although I think it would have been upright of you to answer, rather then dodge, my simple question on whether you claim to be infallible on religious matters ..." I will answer your simple question. No, of course I do not claim to be infallible on religious matters, nor on scientific matters, nor anything else. You asked another question in your lengthy posting, if I remember correctly. Do I consider that the Bible I use can have errors? My answer to this question is yes, I do accept that the KJV and NIV can have errors in them. Also, you say, "With reference to your claim that statements by the Catholic Church on geocentrism go against Biblical teaching on the matter, will you please cite us to the specific sources so those who are interested can review them." Did not Pope John Paul II pardon Galilei and state that Galilei was right all along? Yet the Scriptures tell us that the World cannot be moved and that it was the Sun and Moon that stopped moving, etc., etc. "Your continued use of the Bible shows you accept the Catholic Church acted infallibly in putting it together ..." No, sir, it does not. Have I "dodged" anything else? Neville. --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! -- No attachments (even text) are allowed -- -- Type: text/plain -- File: InterScan_Disclaimer.txt