Are we all agreed so far? Neville Not entirely sure yet.. Neville said, 3. The World takes 23h 56m 4.091s to rotate once about its axis. I am no math person, but instinct tells me that the 4 minutes is taken off because of the increment of rotation needed to be caught up, due to the alleged orbiting of the earth. It is not specifically the true spin rate. It is 24 hours from sun rise to sun rise. Therefore in the HC scene, as the sun is stationary, the real rotation is once in 24 hours.. the other figure is a mathmatical compute to justify the differential in observation of the other stars caused by the orbit al change in location. Like I said.. Its only instinctive.. but I saw a diagram once somewhere. And someone has to answer the connundrum I gave to Allen re the moon, and what IS spin. Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Neville Jones To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Magnitude of scale This debate is fun, isn't it? :-) Let's all calm down and see what we can agree upon. In the following, I am referring ONLY to the heliocentric (= acentric) system. 1. The camera must not be manipulated by the operator, other than to determine how long to keep the shutter open for. In particular, the camera must not be reorientated for the period of the exposure. This will ensure that whatever movement we capture on film will be due to the World's motion. 2. A size of R (= the radius of the World) or 1AU are both insignificant when compared to the distances to the stars. 3. The World takes 23h 56m 4.091s to rotate once about its axis. 4. The World takes 365.25 solar days to orbit the Sun. 5. The difference between a solar day and a sidereal day is approx. 4 mins. Are we all agreed so far? Neville www.GeocentricUniverse.com -----Original Message----- From: pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:56:02 +1000 The axis is determined by the path of rotation at 90 degrees to it...period!....., not aribrary imagination..that is the reason you cant see your own error That Allen is your own dogmatic opinion, and I am not obliged to either agree with or follow it.. that is the reason niether I nor some others can see (accept) your error. Phillip. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get Free 5GB Email – Check out spam free email with many cool features! Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.28/1123 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 3:47 PM