Deara Regner,The five facts you are seeking regarding the geocentric model rely very much on exposing the errors and assumptions within mainstream science. The GWW book collates enough of these problems to seriously undermine MS science's view of the cosmos. If you take a look at the GWW website you will see how the index breaks down the chapters. You can easily skip the historical aspect and only focus on the scientific aspects. It is a book that easily to dip in and out of, that is what I did before reading most of it. My original intention was extract a number of these anommolies from the book and put them into the melting pot. All our information, and yours too, has to be gleaned from somewhere. GWW would be my starting point because it would save me a lot of time searching through all my own records. So why not give it a go?
I appreciate that your time is at a premium, but this subject cannot be dealt with as a straight forward question an answer contest. You create the impression that you are aware of all the geocentrism arguments - that may be true but are you aware of all the arguments against MS science. I doubt it very much.
May I suggest that you add another ground rule to your list.That only one propositions be dealt with at a time until it be accepted by the protagonists to be deemed 'True', 'False' or 'Indeterminate' before going on to the next.
Regards Jack Lewis----- Original Message ----- From: "Regner Trampedach" <art@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:38 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Dr. Regner: An invitation to you
Thanks for the offer, but that would be a wasted effort. Throwing money at a thousand pages of books or converting any number of people does not make your theory correct. I have read enough on earthdeception.googlepages.com and www.geocentricuniverse.com to know what is going on, and there has been nothing to convince me on either web-site. Reading more of the same kind will by no means change my mind. IF we could finally get this discussion going, you might be able to convince me that your theory is physically viable and then I would certainly reconsider your offer. The first part of the discussion is for all of you to give me five facts or observation that are the most supportive of your theory. The next part is the discussion of each of those five fact. This is where I am giving you a chance to convince me - not now. Using figures from your books would be a very good idea for that second part of our discussion - and it would be much appreciated. Regards, Regner Trampedach- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Quoting sungenis@xxxxxxx:Dr. Regner,Recently, my colleague and I, Dr. Robert Bennett (Ph.D. in Physics, with anemphasis on General Relativity), wrote a book (about 1,000 pages) titled:"Galileo Was Wrong: The Church Was Right." I myself was a physics major in colleage, but my Ph.D. is in religious studies, so I am able to understandand write about both the scientific and historical aspect of this issue, while Dr. Bennett compliments?the technical side of the issue. Interestingly enough, prior to his signing on as a co-author of GWW, Dr.Bennett was coaxed by a few of our mutual colleagues into trying to persuade me against delving into geocentrism, much less writing a book about it.?Tohis utter dismay, after seeing the scientific evidence, he was thoroughlypersuaded that geocentrism had more than enough merit to become the perferred model of cosmology, and this is a man who taught heliocentrism and GeneralRelativity for 30 years.As for the book Volume I, which has 650 pages, contains all the scientific evidence for geocentrism. Volume II, which has 400 pages, contains all thehistorical evidence for geocentrism.What we could do in addition to or in lieu of this discussion, is send you a complimentary copy of Volume I. This way, you could see all the arguments, many of which you would appreciate because of your astronomy background.?Wedig real deep into the scientific evidence, so perpare yourself for anexceptional ride, one that I'm sure you've never had in your whole career.If you oblige, just send me your Denmark address and I will see that a copyis?sent to you immediately. We also have a CDrom with 30 differentcosmological animations on it so that you can see the models in graphic form.I will send that as well. Looking forward to?your reply. Robert A. Sungenis -----Original Message----- From: Regner Trampedach <art@xxxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:12 am Subject: [geocentrism] Re: squabbles. Sifting through 28 postings with the heading "Re: Is geocentrism supported by facts?" I found only one entry to add to the list! If this is the best you can do, I don't think geocentricity has much of a future, and I would have to conclude that I waisted my time. Please prove me wrong. Regards, Regner Quoting Regner Trampedach <art@xxxxxxxxxx>: > Thanks, Philip > > - Regner > > Quoting philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > All, perhaps it might help in this period if one changed the subject line> > when squabbling about something, and reserving the main theme subject > > ,> > > > "Is geocentrism supported by the facts" for nothing other than the 5 > > responses Regner requested. > > > > Meantime Steven, this thunderbird email client which filters the mail into> > slots, interests me very much. Can you tell me more about how to get > > it.> > > > Regner did not specifically ask for geocentric supporting facts. His > actual > > words were, > > > > "I would like to start this discussion by asking you to state the > > 5 most fundamental reasons that your theory is correct. " > > > > Pauls theory, and mine differ from Allens. They will all go into the > melting > > pot of Regners summary for discussion, thats if any sort of coherent > > consensus for geocentrism emerges. So far not so good. > > > > Philip. > > ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com