I was contacted today by the St Charles City Parks Department and then by the St Charles City Police Department. It seems that one of my Tremendous Tree caches that the Missouri Botanical Gardens had supposedly received the proper information for placing caused a bit of a scare yesterday. The tube that the MBG had placed on the back of the tree signs for the caches was a PVC pipe w/ caps at both ends. On this cache the tube had been pulled loose from thee sign and was lying on the ground near the sign. Someone reported it to the Police and they had the bomb squad out to check it out. Upon investigation they found out that it was my cache and that there was no permit for the cache. Here is the actual more important thing. They told me that there are NO CACHE PERMITS on file for any caches in St Charles City parks. I was really surprised because I know that some of you with caches in St Charles City Parks have received permission from someone. It was not the correct person or you did not follow the correct procedures. The city is cache friendly but they want their rules followed. There is a procedure to follow at the following link. http://www.stcharlesparks.com/tinymce/filemanager/files/geocaching_procedure .pdf The Ranger and Police suggested that if you have a cache in a St Charles City Park, it is not legal and it should be removed until you follow the proper procedures to get your permit. I told them that I would pass this information along through this freelist and on the SLAGA web site. Mike Henthorn 636-866-4644