[GeoStL] Re: St Charles City Parks caches

  • From: Tom Wolpert <tom_wolpert@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:33:44 -0800 (PST)

This is one of the Treemendous caches.  Missouri Botanical Garden secured 
permission of some sort -- but that doesn't necessarily mean that they went 
through channels and did the paperwork.  While it's possible that St. Charles 
lost it, it's also possible that it was never there to lose for this particular 
cache.  I'm sure the rest of Mike's had the appropriate paperwork, though.


From: Craig Ingram <geoseaeye@xxxxxxxxx>
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 1:31:07 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: St Charles City Parks caches

St Charles city needs to keep better track of their records I know you, Mike, 
followed the proper protocol as you are a responsible cacher. I have filled out 
several cache permits forms like the one you posted I hope they still have 
It was just put them on a desk and not filed when I turned them in. The comment 
was also made by the director of the rangers Mike Cordry "Oh you guys are OK 
just put your stuff out there then bring in the forms" which to me would lead 
to believe that they don't pay too much attention to what's out there until it 
becomes a problem. The first time I went in to find out what was needed he had 
hard time finding the proper forms. So my guess would be WE are doing what WE 
are supposed to but they are not. 

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:56 PM, G Mail <mikeinmo1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I was contacted today by the St Charles City Parks Department and then by
>the St Charles City Police Department. It seems that one of my Tremendous
>Tree caches that the Missouri Botanical Gardens had supposedly received the
>proper information for placing caused a bit of a scare yesterday. The tube
>that the MBG had placed on the back of the tree signs for the caches was a
>PVC pipe w/ caps at both ends. On this cache the tube had been pulled loose
>from thee sign and was lying on the ground near the sign. Someone reported
>it to the Police and they had the bomb squad out to check it out. Upon
>investigation they found out that it was my cache and that there was no
>permit for the cache. Here is the actual more important thing. They told me
>that there are NO CACHE PERMITS on file for any caches in St Charles City
>parks. I was really surprised because I know that some of you with caches in
>St Charles City Parks have received permission from someone. It was not the
>correct person or you did not follow the correct procedures. The city is
>cache friendly but they want their rules followed. There is a procedure to
>follow at the following link.
>The Ranger and Police suggested that if you have a cache in a St Charles
>City Park, it is not legal and it should be removed until you follow the
>proper procedures to get your permit. I told them that I would pass this
>information along through this freelist and on the SLAGA web site.
>Mike Henthorn

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