[GeoStL] Re: St Charles City Parks caches

  • From: "R. sheffold" <rsheffold@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:38:55 -0600

As long as you’re talking about St. Charles, the head ranger for St. Charles 
County parks, (don’t remember his name), called one of the St. Louis county 
park rangers because he found a Munzee on one of the park signs. He had no idea 
what it was so he took a pic and sent it to her. He said he doesn’t want 
anything placed on park property that they do not have control over. 

So just a warning that there may be another crisis brewing out there.


From: Mike Griffin 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:04 PM
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: St Charles City Parks caches

Guys, I can’t stress enough what an impact this would have on GW XII. We should 
be over compliant in this situation and do whatever we can to help them. 



Mike Griffin

Brawny Bear

St. Charles, MO


From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of G Mail
Sent: January 31, 2012 2:40 PM
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: St Charles City Parks caches


Actually, the tree caches are the only ones I have in the city parks.

Mike Henthorn


Sent from my shoe phone 

On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Tom Wolpert <tom_wolpert@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  This is one of the Treemendous caches.  Missouri Botanical Garden secured 
permission of some sort -- but that doesn't necessarily mean that they went 
through channels and did the paperwork.  While it's possible that St. Charles 
lost it, it's also possible that it was never there to lose for this particular 
cache.  I'm sure the rest of Mike's had the appropriate paperwork, though.




  From: Craig Ingram <geoseaeye@xxxxxxxxx>
  To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 1:31:07 PM
  Subject: [GeoStL] Re: St Charles City Parks caches

  St Charles city needs to keep better track of their records I know you, Mike, 
followed the proper protocol as you are a responsible cacher. I have filled out 
several cache permits forms like the one you posted I hope they still have 
them. It was just put them on a desk and not filed when I turned them in. The 
comment was also made by the director of the rangers Mike Cordry "Oh you guys 
are OK just put your stuff out there then bring in the forms" which to me would 
lead me to believe that they don't pay too much attention to what's out there 
until it becomes a problem. The first time I went in to find out what was 
needed he had a hard time finding the proper forms. So my guess would be WE are 
doing what WE are supposed to but they are not. 

  On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:56 PM, G Mail <mikeinmo1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  I was contacted today by the St Charles City Parks Department and then by
  the St Charles City Police Department. It seems that one of my Tremendous
  Tree caches that the Missouri Botanical Gardens had supposedly received the
  proper information for placing caused a bit of a scare yesterday. The tube
  that the MBG had placed on the back of the tree signs for the caches was a
  PVC pipe w/ caps at both ends. On this cache the tube had been pulled loose
  from thee sign and was lying on the ground near the sign. Someone reported
  it to the Police and they had the bomb squad out to check it out. Upon
  investigation they found out that it was my cache and that there was no
  permit for the cache. Here is the actual more important thing. They told me
  that there are NO CACHE PERMITS on file for any caches in St Charles City
  parks. I was really surprised because I know that some of you with caches in
  St Charles City Parks have received permission from someone. It was not the
  correct person or you did not follow the correct procedures. The city is
  cache friendly but they want their rules followed. There is a procedure to
  follow at the following link.
  The Ranger and Police suggested that if you have a cache in a St Charles
  City Park, it is not legal and it should be removed until you follow the
  proper procedures to get your permit. I told them that I would pass this
  information along through this freelist and on the SLAGA web site.

  Mike Henthorn


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