[GeoStL] Re: Common sense when hiding
- From: Dan Baldenweck <harp8n@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:57:51 -0700 (PDT)
gay baby seals?
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From: RNX <_rnx_@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:44:26 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Common sense when hiding
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Why can't we all just get along?-Rodney King
What's to say that the two are exclusive? I'm glad that parents would notice a
suspicious person (doesn't have to be a man) wondering around "lost" or
apparently dazed and confused near their kids. These parents should keep a
close eye their kids under these or any circumstances. Does this mean that we
should all avoid children and/or any area where we may encounter children? I
think not. I love to swing on a swing-set and I"m 40 years old. I don't need a
kid to use as my ticket for admission. I have my inner child for that.
It takes a village to raise a child. They are our greatest resource. Do we want
our next generation to learn to use rational thought or that hysterics should
replace rational thought. Is it OK to repress a few individuals in order for
the masses to maintain their illusion of security.
I just read a news story about an unfortunate 4 year old girl who wondered out
in the street and was hit by a car (the child is in the hospital and doing
well, considering). Her parents are suing the city because they feel that the
street is unsafe. Does this make sense? Shouldn't the parents have the ultimate
responsibility to keep their 4 year olds out of the street regardless of if
it's safe or not? Is there any such thing as a safe street? Maybe we should ban
cars from driving in streets to ease the minds of the parents of all 4 year
olds.
It is important as a cache hider to recognize the impact that your cache will
have on an area. Please no micros tucked inside a historic 150 year old stone
wall with coords that are off by 60 ft and no clue. No tramping through flower
beds to gain one more smiley, and no more clubbing unborn gay baby seals for
Jesus. As for uneasy parents ... It comes with the territory. Be ever vigilant.
We can not vilify a stranger just because we do not know their intentions. Keep
an eye on them. Better yet, keep an eye on your kids.
Love many, trust few, harm none.-Yeo Man
IMHO, If you get to a cache location and there is something about it that makes
you uncomfortable. Don't do it. Move on. There are only a few thousand caches
in the area to choose from. There will be more tomorrow.
p.s. I had a roast beef and cheddar sandwich with bacon for dinner (no veggies,
you don't get a body like this by eating vegitables) ;-p
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Received: Thu, 17 May 2007 07:49:19 PM EDT
From: Michael Rogers <mrogers07@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Common sense when hiding
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Look...
You have to do what you have to do...and I'm going to
step on your toes on this one...but...
You're basicallly saying you're getting out of the
sandbox and taking your toys with you in a huff
because you think your rights and concerns should
trump parental concerns??
I'm sorry bud...you said it best; you're not a parent,
and you sure as the world don't think like one. I'd
like society to be so nice like it was back in the old
days where parents could feel more at ease with their
kids wandering off on whatever adventure that might
pique their fancy. I really do.
Such is not the case, however. With all the bad guys
out there, I can see (from a parental and common-sense
standpoint) why parents would be concerned with some
middle-aged man wandering around their kids, seemingly
lost, staring at them, the equipment or whatever. Do
you really think your whims and delights should trump
those of the parents who may be sittng there, thinking
you are possibly some sexual predator or kidnapper?
If you think you have to quit caching because of that
then well...sorry...I think you are overreacting WAY
too much...almost to the point of being childish in a
way.
-Michael
--- Stephen Martin <faery_generic@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> I am dropping out of this geocache thing. I am
> sorry, but parent or not I get sick of my rights
> being tread on by paranoia. Parents should be
> protective by watching their children. I shouldn't
> feel ashamed to be near any part of a public park
> just because it holds a playground. i have paid
> taxes too so it is partly my playground. Persons
> with private property only have rights that extend
> to there private property. i don't see why I need
> to be so careful of what causes others alarm. If i
> were toting a gun... fear me... but until something
> like that occurs be concerned with yourself and kids
> or dog or whatever... NOT ME!
>
> I will start using my GPSr for private events to
> play high tech hunt with invited folk. I just prefer
> not to tip toe around someone treading full force on
> my rights as a citizen.
>
> I am going to still hunt caches and sign logs in the
> log books. I will not log them on GC.com and I will
> either disable or offer up for adoption all my
> hides. i have no hard feelings for anyone, I just
> can't handle the constant "kid gloves for society"
> kick. It's just too Patriot Act for me.
>
> Please let me know if you want to adopt any of my
> hides.
>
> Stephen
>
>
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