[GeoStL] Re: Common sense when hiding

  • From: Stephen Martin <faery_generic@xxxxxxx>
  • To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:35:00 -0700

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I would have called the cops on those women right in front of them.  I see your 
point about listing the caution regarding time due to muggle and mugglettes 
activity.

Stephen


On Thursday, May 17, 2007, at 11:19AM, "Mike Griffin" <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
>-
>I almost got beat to death in Michigan when I was looking far a cache and 
>came out of the bushes into a clearing. I was looking down for the cache and 
>when I looked up, I was face to face with 12 angry Mothers wondering what I 
>was doing in the bushes next to their daughters. I tried to explain 
>geocaching but they were not amused and ran me out of the park like geese 
>chasing an intruder.
>
>Needless to say, I didn't log the cache.
>
>I don't mind caches around playgrounds if it clearly states it. I can then 
>choose when to go and seek that cache. I think it is irresponsible to place 
>one in an area and not say anything on the cache page. The playground is 
>part of the park and we have permission to place there. However, it needs to 
>be communicated that this is a playground cache.
>
>My 2 cents and my life story..
>
>Mike
>Brawny Bear
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Steve Bromley" <bromley@xxxxxxx>
>To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:29 AM
>Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Common sense when hiding
>
>
>> -
>> Stephen,
>>
>> I've not found either cache so I can't speak to the
>> specifics of your hides.  As a man, I feel extremely
>> unconfortable going anywhere near a playground when children
>> are present. Even though I am perfectly harmless, others do
>> not know that.  Parents are extremely protective of their
>> children (as they should be) and I can see no reason to give
>> them any cause for alarm. In "their" minds, there is no
>> reason for an older man to be anywhere near a playground
>> unless he means to do harm. As a parent, I appreciate their
>> feelings and would have felt the same way when my kids were
>> there. In my point of view, I see no reason for placing any
>> of the caching waypoints anywhere on or near playgrounds.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Stephen Martin <faery_generic@xxxxxxx>
>> To: geo stl <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [GeoStL] Common sense when hiding
>> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:45:35 -0500
>>
>>>-
>>>Ok here I go again with issues I would like feedback on.
>>>
>>>I have two hides that are thorns in my side regarding
>>>others beliefs   that they are inappropriate in the
>>>location.
>>>
>>>First is Independence via metro (GCWZT9) which is located
>>>near   residences but on public space.  The second waypoint
>>>brings you to a   obviously city spot to gather more info
>>>and the final is tucked near   a public sidewalk adjacent
>>>to an empty lot.  I have followed hiding   rules and it IS
>>>all on public property.  However, a few seekers have
>>>shied away from it and questioned my use of common sense.
>>>I don't   get it.  Should all caches be away from any view
>>>of property owners?   If so many many many caches are
>>>hidden without common sense.
>>>
>>>The second is Hagrid's Flyer (GC10YH7).  This one is
>>>disabled, but   today I will be moving the final to a
>>>different location but use the   current coordinates as the
>>>start point still.  It is on a piece of   playground
>>>equipment and few folks have expressed concern regarding
>>>its placement because i assume they assume they will be
>>>viewed as   perverts for being that close to a play ground
>>>while hiding.  Is this   not a family affair for many? Do
>>>children love this game as much as I   do? The answers to
>>>both are YES.  The cache is also very kid themed.   I am
>>>moving the final because it is impossible to keep a
>>>container   secured, not because of others undue concern.
>>>
>>>The way I see it, these caches are hidden within the
>>>guidelines set.    The challenge of the hunt is to find
>>>them using a GPSr, info on the   cache listing and common
>>>sense when seeking.  Don't damage the area   when you hunt,
>>>be stealthy and follow laws and ordinances in the hunt
>>>area. We have a right to use public space. I can find
>>>danger and   possible negative Geocaching PR at any cache
>>>if I want, but I think I   will search and hopefully find
>>>them instead.
>>>
>>>By the way, one cache is fairly new and the other is over
>>>3/4ths of a   year old... and no one has been arrested,
>>>nothing has been damaged   and finds have been logged.  I
>>>guess I just want some true evidence   that these hides are
>>>inappropriate.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance for helping me become a better all around
>>>player in   this sport/game.
>>>
>>>Stephen
>>>
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>> Steve
>>
>>
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