- I would have called the cops on those women right in front of them. I see your point about listing the caution regarding time due to muggle and mugglettes activity. Stephen On Thursday, May 17, 2007, at 11:19AM, "Mike Griffin" <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >- >I almost got beat to death in Michigan when I was looking far a cache and >came out of the bushes into a clearing. I was looking down for the cache and >when I looked up, I was face to face with 12 angry Mothers wondering what I >was doing in the bushes next to their daughters. I tried to explain >geocaching but they were not amused and ran me out of the park like geese >chasing an intruder. > >Needless to say, I didn't log the cache. > >I don't mind caches around playgrounds if it clearly states it. I can then >choose when to go and seek that cache. I think it is irresponsible to place >one in an area and not say anything on the cache page. The playground is >part of the park and we have permission to place there. However, it needs to >be communicated that this is a playground cache. > >My 2 cents and my life story.. > >Mike >Brawny Bear >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Steve Bromley" <bromley@xxxxxxx> >To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:29 AM >Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Common sense when hiding > > >> - >> Stephen, >> >> I've not found either cache so I can't speak to the >> specifics of your hides. As a man, I feel extremely >> unconfortable going anywhere near a playground when children >> are present. Even though I am perfectly harmless, others do >> not know that. Parents are extremely protective of their >> children (as they should be) and I can see no reason to give >> them any cause for alarm. In "their" minds, there is no >> reason for an older man to be anywhere near a playground >> unless he means to do harm. As a parent, I appreciate their >> feelings and would have felt the same way when my kids were >> there. In my point of view, I see no reason for placing any >> of the caching waypoints anywhere on or near playgrounds. >> >> Steve >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Stephen Martin <faery_generic@xxxxxxx> >> To: geo stl <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: [GeoStL] Common sense when hiding >> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:45:35 -0500 >> >>>- >>>Ok here I go again with issues I would like feedback on. >>> >>>I have two hides that are thorns in my side regarding >>>others beliefs that they are inappropriate in the >>>location. >>> >>>First is Independence via metro (GCWZT9) which is located >>>near residences but on public space. The second waypoint >>>brings you to a obviously city spot to gather more info >>>and the final is tucked near a public sidewalk adjacent >>>to an empty lot. I have followed hiding rules and it IS >>>all on public property. However, a few seekers have >>>shied away from it and questioned my use of common sense. >>>I don't get it. Should all caches be away from any view >>>of property owners? If so many many many caches are >>>hidden without common sense. >>> >>>The second is Hagrid's Flyer (GC10YH7). This one is >>>disabled, but today I will be moving the final to a >>>different location but use the current coordinates as the >>>start point still. It is on a piece of playground >>>equipment and few folks have expressed concern regarding >>>its placement because i assume they assume they will be >>>viewed as perverts for being that close to a play ground >>>while hiding. Is this not a family affair for many? Do >>>children love this game as much as I do? The answers to >>>both are YES. The cache is also very kid themed. I am >>>moving the final because it is impossible to keep a >>>container secured, not because of others undue concern. >>> >>>The way I see it, these caches are hidden within the >>>guidelines set. The challenge of the hunt is to find >>>them using a GPSr, info on the cache listing and common >>>sense when seeking. Don't damage the area when you hunt, >>>be stealthy and follow laws and ordinances in the hunt >>>area. We have a right to use public space. I can find >>>danger and possible negative Geocaching PR at any cache >>>if I want, but I think I will search and hopefully find >>>them instead. >>> >>>By the way, one cache is fairly new and the other is over >>>3/4ths of a year old... and no one has been arrested, >>>nothing has been damaged and finds have been logged. I >>>guess I just want some true evidence that these hides are >>>inappropriate. >>> >>>Thanks in advance for helping me become a better all around >>>player in this sport/game. >>> >>>Stephen >>> >>> >>> **************************************** >>> For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including >>>unsubscribing from this >>> list, click -----> >>>//www.freelists.org/list/geocaching >>> Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived >>>http://tinyurl.com/87cqw >> >> Steve >> >> >> **************************************** >> For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this >> list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching >> Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw >> > > > > **************************************** > For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this > list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching > Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw > > **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw