[gameprogrammer] Re: PC game Outsourcing
- From: "Jason Clark" <jclark@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <gameprogrammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:42:47 -0700
I'm going back to school for Biology in hopes my programming will help make
me more valuable there.
One of the things I hadn't considered while whining about my company
offshoring all of our non-management positions was how it affects the H1Bs.
Before you start screaming, please read on...
While a few of my coworkers don't care much for them, I personaly, have
never had issue with non-resident workers and have always figured that if
they got a job because they were better than me then 'Hey' I need to get
back to the books and get better then them. A very good friend and a truly
gifted engineer I work with is from India and he was just shaking his head
about the whole offshoring thing. In his case, he worked extra hard, was in
the top 10% of all of his classes, came to the United States and continued
to be at the top, and now, the people who slept through class back home will
get his job, or at the very least, devalue it substantially.
Now that's a bummer!
Jason.
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[mailto:gameprogrammer-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jake The Snake
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Subject: [gameprogrammer] Re: PC game Outsourcing
Keith Emery wrote:
>This is my first post though I have been a subscriber for over a year. T=
his whole issue (or rather everyone's comments on it) has me flummoxed.
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>How many of you are open source advocates? The strength of open source i=
s the fact that by default, through competition the best (most efficient =
benefitting the most people) solution rises to the top. The important par=
t of this that most people forget is that it has to be the solution that =
benefits the most people. This solution may not be the best in absolute p=
erformance, but it is the best that a significant number of people can af=
ford. This is the free market at work. Capitalism ensures that sooner or =
later the money and the tools of production make it into the hands of the=
most competent. I know it seems hard to believe when your boss is an idi=
ot or you see some punk inherit a fortune but unless the punk is producti=
ve the money will leave him. It isn't immediate and it isn't perfectly ef=
ficient but it is far more efficient than when a government makes the dec=
isions. Why? Because business operates to make a profit.
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>Outsourcing is the same concept on a different scale. Put all the worlds=
widget manufacturers together and choose the product from the one that g=
ives you the best product at a price that most customers can afford. If t=
hat means your neighbor loses his job that is too bad. Why should you sub=
sidize a subpar product just to keep your neighbor working? That is the p=
remise the unions have been working on for the last 30 years.
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>The world changes. It is our right and our duty to change with it. We ce=
rtainly can't expect the rest of the world to bend to us. If I could chan=
ge one thing about American education, it would be to teach citizens thei=
r role in a free market economy. You cannot and should not expect someone=
else to look after you. Your own well being is your responsibility, not =
someone else's. Yet whenever someone proposes a government solution to th=
eir problem, they are abdicating responsibility for themselves and puttin=
g it off on someone else. Likewise, businesses shouldn't be subsidized to=
behave one way over another. They must operate under the constraints of =
the market and not expect governments to bail them out because they are u=
nable (or unwilling) to make the tough decisions needed to survive.
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>I should have warned you all not to get me started ; )
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>Keith Emery
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Nice analogy. Nice. I suppose when you see "your" industry going=20
overseas where you cant get at them to even have a chance of gettin a=20
job, its annoying. I dont know what i'd do if nz companys started to=20
outsource to another country. Probably be a sheep farmer....
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