Thanks Tim & Howard. There is quite a bit of information there! What I was hoping to get is a tag list from a configuration in IACC. We = have not kept the taglist up to date in IACC, so I was hoping to be able = to generate one from the configuration, the way FoxCAE can do it. I just wished that Foxboro had not decided to stop development on FoxCAE = before a new tool is available with "equivalent/better" features as = FoxCAE. IACC is very powerful to configure large projects, but not so = great for maintenance (I hope I learn to appreciate its features with = time... I am new to this). Andre -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lowell, Timothy Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:06 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] IACC versus ICC Andre, There is a workaround for the RIN/ROUT blocks in FoxCAE. I'll refer you Howard Cossitt's e-mail to the list in reference to this problem. //www.freelists.org/archives/foxboro/06-2006/msg00078.html Tim Lowell Control Systems Engineer Tesoro Corporation (office) 210-283-2929 (mobile) 210-253-0225 tlowell@xxxxxxxxxxx =3D20 -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marchal, Andre L. Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:58 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] IACC versus ICC Alex, I agree with the statement made that the backdocumentation capabities of =3D3D IACC are lower than IACC. I ended up loading our CPs configured in IACC =3D3D on FoxCAE (for information only). I particularly like to follow block = =3D =3D3D connections, even between CSDs. However, going to 8.x, the RIN, ROUT blocks are not fully supported by = =3D =3D3D FoxCAE. So, the taglist generated in FoxCAE lacks most of our analog = =3D =3D3D I/Os. And there is no equivalent function in IACC. So, we are back to =3D3D maintaining the I/O list on a separate document. Did I miss anything or =3D3D did we lose this feature? Andr=3D3DE9 -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Johnson, Alex P (IPS) Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:46 PM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] IACC versus ICC The support of existing systems in the IEE is an on-going effort. Delivery of that support is sometime away; hence, my recommendation of IACC. Today, IEE does not exceed IACC for back documentation (FoxCAE remains the best at that). However, it is an area that is being worked. LOOPID is the key used by FoxCAE, IACC, and IEE to group imported blocks into control strategies. If you use it for "free text", the grouping will not be terribly useful on import into any of these configurators. Does this help? Regards, =3D3D3D20 Alex Johnson Invensys Systems, Inc. 10900 Equity Drive Houston, TX 77041 713.329.8472 (voice) 713.329.1700 (fax) 713.329.1600 (switchboard) alex.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Goldie, Shaun S Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:19 PM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] IACC versus ICC Hmmmm this is turning into a very interesting thread Thanks Alex for your extended effort with the configurator comparisons I hadn't considered IEE didn't realise it had progressed so far ? How will IEE support hybrid 6.5.x/7.x/8.x systems that include modules only supported by sysDef =3D3D3D3D09eg MB+ integrators and COM15 gateways The suggestion for me to migrate to FCP's using ICC then change to IEE at a later date looks inviting ? will IEE be any better at back engineering than IACC ? What are the rules for the loopID field when importing a saveAll into IACC/foxCAE/IEE using the loop ID grouping We have only used loop ID as free text but it seems the starting point to improve changing configurators Shaun NZ Steel =3D3D3D3D0A=3D3D3D3D0ANOTICE - This message and any attached files may = =3D contain informatio=3D3D3D3D n that is confidential and intended only for use by the intended recipien=3D3D3D3D t. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for de=3D3D3D3D livering the message to the intended recipient, be advised that you have =3D3D3D3D received this message in error and that any dissemination, copying or use=3D3D3D3D of this message or attachment is strictly forbidden, as is the disclosur=3D3D3D3D e of the information therein. 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