John, (and everyone) Remember this list has an archive that is posted on the 'net for all to see: //www.freelists.org/archive/elky/ So be careful not to post personal info, lest the scammers and spammers get the info - I've deleted the message with your # from the archive. Freelist only allows me to delete posts from the current month... (occasionally I forget and leave my signature in my post, with my number, and have to delete it from the archive). Rules: Please play nicely with others. -List members page (text & pic links): http://www.myelcamino.net/eclist.htm -List members page (all pics): http://www.myelcamino.net/ec_list.htm