Hi, I can endorse what Kaye says about OBR. We sell it here in the U.K. and, while not a low cost package, it is amazing how it scans double-sided braille. George W F Bell -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kaye Travnicek Sent: 20 March 2003 17:13 To: duxuser Westside Schools E-Mail Reply... Reply to: RE: [duxuser] Re: Reading Interpoint Pages You might want to take a look at the following website: http://www.neovision.cz/prods/obr/ This site fully describes and gives pricing for OBR (Optical Braille Recognition), a Windows driven program used with many varieties of scanners. I use this program and it is truly amazing. I have had it for several years and it really cuts through the chore of proofing a braille sheet. It recognizes the braille and translates it into print. What is phenomenal is that it scans and reads interpoint--both sides at once! Plus, it is very simple to use. I highly recommend this product. It's a little pricey, but worth every penny when you consider the time spent in proofing interpoint braille. -- kt On 3/20/03, Robert W. S. Kennaugh wrote: I haven't done a great deal of proofing interpoint braille, but have had some success with good lighting as well as a light application of chalk, crayon, graphite from pencil to highlight the"raised" dots on the "right side". Yes, it's a bit messy, and of course, one has to be prepared for the cost and effort of embossing another "clean" hard copy for the user! Bob Kennaugh Manitoba Education and Youth Winnipeg, Manitoba ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Thomas" <braille@xxxxxxxxx> To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:08 AM Subject: [duxuser] Reading Interpoint Pages > Here's a question for all the sighted list members with a knowledge of > braille. Can you read interpoint pages or does the image of the dots > from the other side of the page get in the way? If this is a problem, > how do you manage to read texts in interpoint braille? I'm asking > because I've heard that it can't be done but that to me doesn't seem correct. > Thanks in advance for your replies. > Catherine > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- > ---- ---- > -Catherine Thomas > braille@xxxxxxxxx / > > ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- > ---- ----- > * * * > * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. > * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with > * unsubscribe > * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also > * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription > * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. 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The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * RFC822 header ----------------------------------- Received: from TURING.FREELISTS.ORG by mail.westside66.org with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 2.1); 20-Mar-2003 10:07:03 -0600 Received: from turing.(none) (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D42BE3904CF; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:59:36 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list duxuser); Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:59:13 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Received: from smtp1.mts.net (smtp1.mts.net [205.200.16.74]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 76015390675 for <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:59:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from ownerplj7fz11n (wnpgmb11dc1-res-170-31.mts.net [142.161.170.31]) by smtp1.mts.net (8.12.8/8.11.3) with SMTP id h2KG6g5H022988 for <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:06:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <006401c2eefa$ac0971d0$fd2ffea9@ownerplj7fz11n> From: "Robert W. 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