Your student will probably not know the Nemeth symbol for a natural join anyway. If you don't get a more definitive answer, you might need to invent a symbol and provide a transcriber's note defining the symbol. People do transcriber's notes and special symbols pages all the time. In my personal opinion, a lot less should be put on special symbols pages, assuming that the reader knows a little more about the codes in question. But I don't write the rules. Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Project Engineer National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped Library of Congress 202-707-0535 http://www.loc.gov/nls The preceding opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of the Library of Congress, NLS. -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 5:21 PM To: Rasmussen, Lloyd; duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Braille for Natural Join symbol? Hello all, We are working on a relational database book for a computer science student and encountered a symbol that we are unsure of when attempting to convert to Braille. The symbol is called a "natural join" and (essentially) looks like a bow tie. It is used in relational algebra and database design. Here is a wikipedia entry for the natural join: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relational_algebra#Natural_join_.28.E2.8B.88.29 We have been doing some research to identify the Braille representation of the symbol, but have been unsuccessful. Does anyone know what the appropriate Braille representation is for the natural join? Thanks and take care, Sean -- Sean Keegan, M.S. Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *