Hi Sean, You have raised a very interesting and timely question, since I'm currently working with MathType 6.7 on other issues. I believe what you are looking for in print terms is either Unicode 2A1D simply known as "Join", and/or Unicode 22C8 known as "Bowtie". (And perhaps even Unicode 27D7 known as "Full Outer Join".) Moreover, while I have quite an extensive range of Unicode Fonts on my system, I have only been able to locate 22C8 (Bowtie) in the "Arial Unicode MS" character set. I've not been able to trace any information as regards how they should be interpreted in Braille, but have Bcc'd this to one or two people who may be able to advise. George. -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sean J Keegan Sent: 23 September 2010 22:21 To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Braille for Natural Join symbol? Hello all, We are working on a relational database book for a computer science student and encountered a symbol that we are unsure of when attempting to convert to Braille. The symbol is called a "natural join" and (essentially) looks like a bow tie. It is used in relational algebra and database design. Here is a wikipedia entry for the natural join: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relational_algebra#Natural_join_.28.E2.8B .88.29 We have been doing some research to identify the Braille representation of the symbol, but have been unsuccessful. Does anyone know what the appropriate Braille representation is for the natural join? Thanks and take care, Sean -- Sean Keegan, M.S. Associate Director, Assistive Technology Office of Accessible Education - Stanford University http://studentaffairs.stanford.edu/oae * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *