[ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?

  • From: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:13:41 -0600

Good luck!  I only bring this up in an open forum, because for some 
massochistic, and somewhat parochial self-interested way, I think that the 
elder 
generation who's in the thick of this sort of thing has some sort of 
responsibility to try and educate our brothers and sisters who aren't in the 
corporate zone, 
yet who can undo what those in a position to be in the process of bringing 
things about are doing with their impatience or blissfull bull in a china 
shoppe 
ignorance...  Of course, this is based upon the shakey premise that they are 
willing to be educated about what works and doesn't, and how things work, 
and what they can do that will take harnessed focused effort rather than 
screams and clinched fists in the air offputting potential change agents who 
might 
otherwise be guided to an understanding of and sympathy toward what needs to be 
done to make things more accessible to us...  To me, that's part of the 
business of music, as much as one's stage demeanor, or, how to sell oneself and 
one's group to a potential booker...

Nick

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 22:51:37 -0000, Tim Burgess wrote:

 Yup, I'd go along with that.  

 I'm in the adaptive industry in my day job and I've had several of my
 clients tell me their estimate of how much I earn.  The closest and most
 conservative estimate was roughly double the real figure.  I must confess
 that, despite being a fairly mild-mannered chap (I hope - back me up
 George!), I actually lost my temper with one guy who said that, since I'm
 blind myself and I work where I do, that I was stealing from other blind
 people.  I found this a little hard to take and requested that one of my
 colleagues deal with this guy in the future to prevent me from saying
 anything further - I'm not proud of this, but I'm only human.

 Anyway, this is rapidly heading off-topic, so I'll stop there and carry on
 doing the best I can with the music stuff in my own time - I'd like to be
 able to spend more time doing this but my wife insists that I continue to
 bring home the bacon (grin).  I'm meeting with someone in a couple of weeks
 to discuss the next step along the road, so fingers crossed.

 Cheers.

 Tim


 -----Original Message-----
 From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
 Behalf Of W. Nick Dotson
 Sent: 26 November 2005 21:59
 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?

 Right.  My point is, and has been, a bunch of wild-eyed or "uneyed" folks
 screaming about "fairness", "I want", "fabulous riches in the blind
 marketplace if only you'd only do thus and such" are not going to get us
 anywhere, in fact, will do the obverse.  I certainly understnad impatience,
 and poured my share of bread into things that sounded just like what I
 wanted in the store, but the preponderance of what I'd like to be able to do
 with them is inaccessible...  But, I know that industry people by and large
 are interested in profit formost, and in maintaining a status quo with an
 upgrade in sales if possible, as desired by their stockholders.  It is only
 by capturing their interest, on a one by one human in a company basis, then,
 helping their company advocate for our interests, how to see that what they
 might do to make our lives easier will enhance their revenue stream by
 playing into the needs of larger demographics their companies sell to, that
 our advocate will be able to sel our position up the corporate
 decision-making ladder...  I get really impatient with the collective
 ignorance in our community with respect to how corporate decisions get made,
 and what their primary goals and interests are, and how to play into them
 for our own interests.  And, it's something I have to do all the time since
 1985 when I joined the Adaptive Tech Indrusty, and people started flaming me
 for selling out, and why couldn't companies producing Adaptive Technology
 sell their products for less, and on and on and on, with no conception of
 what it takes to run a company producing hardware or software with a annual
 revenue base of $15,000,000 with is just big enough to distribute in the US,
 Europe, South and Central America, and have small scale distribution in Asia
 and Africa...  They, blind end-user's, seem to have the collective delusion
 that distributors are having their business expenses defrayed by some
 mechanism in the sky, rather than from a 20% or smaller commission, from
 whence their income, corporate and personal taxes, and those of their
 employees must be paid.  Then, as prices descended to the $2,900 or lower
 per unit level, it became impossible for the dealer to distribute 3.5 hours
 of training per unit, which used to be the norm, without charging the
 customer, lines of exclusivity broke, and consequently there was no useable
 feedback mechanism to ensure that mal or non-feasant dealers were punished,
 and the only thing that mattered was quarterly sales performance and quota
 attainment...  So as prices and profit margins dropped, the dealer had to
 sell more and leas and less after-sales customer attention could afford to
 be paid.  It is the same in music with the proliferation of "Musician's
 Friend" "Guitar Center" and other box pushing shops which keep prices down
 within about 3 brackets, entry-level student models, simi-pro gear, and
 high-end pro/studio gear...  The price points on new offerings never seem to
 change once determined and prooved out by long-range performance...

 Nick


 On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 21:19:29 -0000, Tim Burgess wrote:

  Hi,

  I certainly can't object to lots of people trying different ways - we only
 need to get the result once, after all.  The only thing that concerns me is
 folks thinking that getting a result for their particular favourite piece of
 kit is the end game - it's not.  We want access to every bit of MIDI kit out
 there.  This is a big target in itself, but will still leave the problem of
 non-MIDI kit, soft synths (although MIDI text out could potentially affect
 these if we got it through the MMA), etc..  I'm trying to focus my efforts
 on one target that I understand at the technological level and think is
 attainable in some kind of sensible time frame and where a means exists to
 address accessibility industry-wide.  If I can make this work then we all
 win, not just the fortunate few with the resources to afford a Kurzweil (I'm
 one of the lucky ones here).

  Cheers.

  Tim
  -----Original Message-----
  From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
 Behalf Of W. Nick Dotson
  Sent: 26 November 2005 21:00
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?

  Yeh, I know, just seems some folks are rather thick about the fact that
 this  stuff just doesn't happen over night, and they've got their nickers in
 a  knot...  (grin)

  Nick


  On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:48:39 -0000, Tim Burgess wrote:

   That's the intention. 

   Cheers.

   Tim
   -----Original Message-----
   From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
 On  Behalf Of W. Nick Dotson
   Sent: 25 November 2005 23:06
   To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
   Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?

   It would appear that Tim is doing exactly that with Yamaha.

   Nick

   On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:32:38 -0800 (PST), Jay Thompson wrote:

    Ok so we all aggreed, that a midi channel would be  ideal.  Good!  Now
 then, will somebody take the step  in getting this idea on the table to the
 manufacturers?
    Jay

    Jay Thompson
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