[cryptome] Re: Scottish Independence?

  • From: Aftermath <aftermath.thegreat@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 15:33:02 -0700

I dont think theyve considered it either unlike Ecuador or Iceland, but
they could still have paper money by using QR codes on paper and and
creating exchanges to exchange fiat to digital.

The new proof of steak method is far more efficent and arguably more secure
than the proof of work that first gen cryptocurrencies use so massive
distributed mining and electrical consumption wouldnt be an issue..

On Monday, September 8, 2014, doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Aftermath,
> Now, that is a very interesting point.  The Scots were never short at
> inventiveness during the industrial revolution, and very few of us learned
> our reading and writing without the aid of that great Scots American Andrew
> Carnegie, who devoted so much of the wealth which he extracted from
> exploiting his U.S. workforce in the late 19th and early 20th century, that
> he didn't know what to do with it and gave 90% away to funding the
> educational and philanthropic institutions with the wherewithal’s to give a
> diverse education to the underdogs of the world...including us Scots.
> There is nary a town in Scotland that doesn't have its main library named
> after and funded by Andrew Carnegie.  I, myself would never have been able
> to read books on so many subjects, in the comfort of a nice, warm reference
> room in the middle of a harrowing Scottish winter, if it hadn't been for
> this man's great benefaction...
> That said...I don't think that the Scottish establishment has even
> considered using a crypto-currency....though I could be wrong!  It has
> found great difficulty getting its head round the practicalities of using
> the pound Sterling, and cannot even agree on how much oil wealth they
> have.  And they have the same problem prioritising and balancing the budget
> as does any other bureaucratic state.
> Really, at the time they decided to go for a referendum on independence,
> they were hoping to join the Euro, as an alternative to the pound if they
> couldn't get some kind of agreement with the Bank of England.  However, the
> global financial crisis "scotched" that, if you will pardon the pun, so
> they were left with the alternative of going for the pound sterling or
> creating a new currency called the Scottish pound.
> Trying the concept of joining the Euro on the Scottish masses, was
> unfortunately a no go area at the time and it was felt that it would lose
> them any referendum. A crypto-currency would be even more confusing, in my
> humble opinion.  I remember carrying out a survey in my local computer club
> a couple of years ago, and I was the only one who had ever heard of
> Bitcoin, and no one had a clue what it was.
> Having left Scotland in 1964 as an economic migrant and hitch-hiked all
> the way to London with £50 in my pocket to make my fortune, most of my
> close family have passed on and I have little contact with rare relatives,
> and therefore, nux influence on Scottish life.  However, if anyone on here
> has contact with the Scottish Social media, it might well be worth while
> bringing the subject up...
> Kind Regards,
> Dougie.
> On 08/09/14 21:44, Aftermath wrote:
> as far as their national currency, its not unheard of for a country to
> atleast CONSIDER the use of cryptocurrency.
> On Monday, September 8, 2014, doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>> Hi Silent1,
>> I am a member Yougov, but they didn't give me the chance to vote in any
>> of their polls on Scotland.   Doesn't surprise me in the slightest that the
>> "Yes" lot are using such tactics...I dare say, so are the "No" vote...who
>> is the biggest.  And why is it all so urgent...tomorrow is another day.
>> Long before the referendum, I watched the various debates in the
>> parliamentary committees on the Scottish question...one could see then how
>> the arguments were going to pan out.  I loved the currency question, when
>> it came up at in the Financial Committee.  Completely flummoxed the
>> Scottish Civil Servant, I was surprised that Salmond got caught out on it,
>> he is a wiley politician if there is one.
>> It will be interesting to find out how the social media has been used by
>> all the Parties, institutions and organisations, and how much it will
>> influence the outcome.  I dare say that some academic will be doing a
>> report on it.
>> Regarding The West Lothian Question...I fully agree.  I don't see why the
>> M.P.s representing Scottish constituencies should be allowed to vote in the
>> Westminster Parliament on what are English questions.   The issue has been
>> raised many times by the Scottish nationalists,  they drew Cameron's
>> attention to the contradiction, but it was ignored, too busy fighting and
>> funding foreign wars and supporting the U.S. and the Al Quaeda Liberation
>> Front in Syria.
>> If Cameron had paid more attention and put more money into the kitty,
>> then perhaps his Conservative/Liberal government and their "Better
>> Together" cronies would be in a stronger position, both in England as well
>> as Scotland.  English Nationalists, little Englanders and UKIP popping up
>> everywhere.
>> I loved the crack made by a member of the public at one of the debates
>> between the Scottish P.M.  Alex Salmond and the "Better Together" leader,
>> Alistair Darling.  He asked Mr. Darling why we weren't better together now,
>> rather than getting on better in the future...difficult one to answer...got
>> a big laugh...:-).
>> ATB
>> Dougie.
>> On 08/09/14 19:15, Silent1 wrote:
>>> Just a small note regarding polling, a lot of the yes voting camp were
>>> getting people the sign up to yougov (the main referendum polling agency) a
>>> few months ago so it can't be taken to be all that accurate.
>>> I'm indifferent to Scotland leaving or staying I'd rather the West
>>> Lothian question was sorted though.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of doug
>>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 6:43 PM
>>> To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [cryptome] Scottish Independence?
>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>> With the recent polls giving the "Yes to Independence" vote a small
>>> majority for the first time in the referendum on nationhood....which has
>>> shocked a number of their English "betters" and surprised the Scots Nats
>>> even more. I was just thinking about the strategic implications for the
>>> Western powers if the Scottish people do decide to leave the UK and
>>> strike out on their own.  It would certainly mean some kind of changes
>>> to NATO, to 5 eyes, to various Western alliances, and England's position
>>> in the world.  it is a different proposition arguing world politics and
>>> sending armies to Afghanistan, Iraq and such like, as a "little
>>> Englander" nation rather than the United Kingdom.  One can see why Obama
>>> wants Scotland to stay as part of the UK, what with the polaris bases
>>> and storage facilities and other US listening posts based there.  There
>>> are a lot of Scots wanting rid of these facilities and would rather
>>> spend the money on "proper" jobs like tourism and protecting the
>>> environment.  I wonder if Obama and the NSA will offer pots of money for
>>> a new Scottish C.I.A. and NSA to work in alliance with GCHQ and the
>>> secret intelligence service.  I wonder if the S.I.S. will consider us as
>>> friendly aliens".  I wonder if the S.I.S. and the security service,
>>> considers all of those who support yes and vote yes, as enemies of the
>>> state, radicals and targets of operations...
>>> It is interesting to note, too, that the very Conservative Westminster
>>> parliament, after being very negative about the Scots being able to do
>>> without the support, expertise and money from the English parliament,
>>> that the Conservative politicians are now offering all sorts of carrots
>>> to keep the Scots in the kingdom. And this is being done...AFTER...some
>>> of the voting has already taken place.  That wouldn't be allowed to
>>> happen in a UK election, yet it is being forced upon the Scots.  i
>>> wonder how the Scots will react to it.  The same thing happened with the
>>> Poll Tax, the Scots bore the brunt of it.
>>> All the stops are being pulled out at Westminster, the dirty tricks are
>>> starting, and I dare say that the U.S. embassy will be sticking its oar
>>> in as well...
>>> Maybe the Scots should use the dollar...rather than the pound...:-).
>>> Food for thought.
>>> ATB
>>> Dougie.
>>> P.S. I am not a nationalist, nor am I for or against independence. Just
>>> like being a member of the E.U.  I don't have a clue whether it is a
>>> good or a bad thing.  Personally, I think small is beautiful.

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