[cryptome] Re: Scottish Independence?

  • From: "Silent1" <lists@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 19:15:22 +0100

Just a small note regarding polling, a lot of the yes voting camp were getting 
people the sign up to yougov (the main referendum polling agency) a few months 
ago so it can't be taken to be all that accurate.
I'm indifferent to Scotland leaving or staying I'd rather the West Lothian 
question was sorted though.

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From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of doug
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 6:43 PM
To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cryptome] Scottish Independence?

Dear Colleagues,

With the recent polls giving the "Yes to Independence" vote a small 
majority for the first time in the referendum on nationhood....which has 
shocked a number of their English "betters" and surprised the Scots Nats 
even more. I was just thinking about the strategic implications for the 
Western powers if the Scottish people do decide to leave the UK and 
strike out on their own.  It would certainly mean some kind of changes 
to NATO, to 5 eyes, to various Western alliances, and England's position 
in the world.  it is a different proposition arguing world politics and 
sending armies to Afghanistan, Iraq and such like, as a "little 
Englander" nation rather than the United Kingdom.  One can see why Obama 
wants Scotland to stay as part of the UK, what with the polaris bases 
and storage facilities and other US listening posts based there.  There 
are a lot of Scots wanting rid of these facilities and would rather 
spend the money on "proper" jobs like tourism and protecting the 
environment.  I wonder if Obama and the NSA will offer pots of money for 
a new Scottish C.I.A. and NSA to work in alliance with GCHQ and the 
secret intelligence service.  I wonder if the S.I.S. will consider us as 
"friendly aliens".  I wonder if the S.I.S. and the security service, 
considers all of those who support yes and vote yes, as enemies of the 
state, radicals and targets of operations...

It is interesting to note, too, that the very Conservative Westminster 
parliament, after being very negative about the Scots being able to do 
without the support, expertise and money from the English parliament, 
that the Conservative politicians are now offering all sorts of carrots 
to keep the Scots in the kingdom. And this is being done...AFTER...some 
of the voting has already taken place.  That wouldn't be allowed to 
happen in a UK election, yet it is being forced upon the Scots.  i 
wonder how the Scots will react to it.  The same thing happened with the 
Poll Tax, the Scots bore the brunt of it.

All the stops are being pulled out at Westminster, the dirty tricks are 
starting, and I dare say that the U.S. embassy will be sticking its oar 
in as well...

Maybe the Scots should use the dollar...rather than the pound...:-).
Food for thought.
P.S. I am not a nationalist, nor am I for or against independence. Just 
like being a member of the E.U.  I don't have a clue whether it is a 
good or a bad thing.  Personally, I think small is beautiful.

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