Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:51:26 +0200

Yeah a middle ground understanding sounds good.


On 16 February 2015 at 15:47, sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> lol, I hear you. I think there's a happy compromise somewhere in the
> middle of all of this though.
>
> If people simply consumed less one wouldn't need to cut down the
> population. It's easier to adjust your lifestyle than it is to play with
> population sizes I'd think. Also, even if you cut down the population in
> terms of size, what's to stop the remaining population from simply wanting
> even more?
>
> My wife and I share a meal at Burger King. We literally cut the thing in
> half. I'm not saying everyone needs to share their burgers but my point is
> that one meal fills both of us sufficiently. People tend to base how much
> they eat on what size their meal comes in and tend to overestimate how much
> the really need :P
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> What?
>> You do realize that you need more things for more people right ?
>> Less people ~ less things needed.
>> Population control doesn't have to be approached like china or whatever.
>> People just need to realize that they should replace themselves, not
>> multiply like crazy.
>> But then you get into the whole "don't tell me how many kids I can have"
>> thing.
>>
>> Conclusion I've come to when talking about this issue is that most people
>> would rather have a big family over a sustainable environment.
>> And when you try to talk the about conservation for the future they
>> completely disregard it as someone else's problem.
>>
>> Basically Stu hates Earth.
>>
>> On 16 February 2015 at 15:19, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Countries with stable populations usually have stable economies or
>>> whatever it is that allows them to be be happy.
>>> I know the tax in most of these countries is very very high but it's
>>> fine because everyone receiving is also paying.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 February 2015 at 15:15, sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I tend to agree - I think the bigger issue has got to do with resource
>>>> distribution. People tend to want more than what they really need.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Huh?
>>>>>
>>>>> Too many for what? There is enough space for people to live, more than
>>>>> enough food for the whole planet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure there are lots of issues in the world but overpopulation isn’t
>>>>> actually one of them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Scheidel
>>>>> *Sent:* 16 February 2015 3:00 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Almost every problem we have as people here on on earth is that there
>>>>> are just too many of us.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 February 2015 at 14:57, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just wrote 4 paragraphs of my thoughts on racism and then deleted it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fuck politics.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Feb 2015 14:49, "Ashraf Barendse" <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Damn Japs, why they gotta be racist. Slanty-eyed rice eaters.
>>>>>
>>>>> :P
>>>>>
>>>>> HBD Jag.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Yeah. It's not they discriminate and treat you differently. If
>>>>> you're whatever race and you go to japan. They treat you nicely. It's just
>>>>> the idea of sharing their environment with people they don't know or
>>>>> foreigners.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also a lot of issue started when Japan allowed thailand to travel to
>>>>> japan by getting a tourist visa on arrival...A LOT of illegal immigrants
>>>>> went in to Japan. I think at least 6,000 in the first 3 months. And the
>>>>> thai tourist are very loud and dirty...throwing shit everywhere, not 
>>>>> lining
>>>>> up, etc. Fuelling the japanese xenophobia even more.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Well there is a difference between pride and hating others.
>>>>>
>>>>> I get what Di is saying though ~ basically it's not so much that they
>>>>> hate other people (they obviously do to some extent) but more that they
>>>>> just want to be around their own kind.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 February 2015 at 14:36, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Pride?
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s not pride behind racism. It’s hate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
>>>>> *Sent:* 16 February 2015 2:31 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, asians are pretty racist and xenophobic...so i'm not too
>>>>> surprise they wrote something like that. They're pretty racist and
>>>>> xenophobic among themselves too. Chinese vs Japanese. Thai vs everyone
>>>>> else. Etc. Too much pride in their own race and country.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I think it was on some comedy show I was watching where the guy
>>>>> covers some similar stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some old sports team owner was caught saying something racist and
>>>>> there was a big stink.
>>>>>
>>>>> What the fuck do they expect ? the parents of Americans who are 80+
>>>>> now where the generation that finished off the Native american holocaust
>>>>> ffs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It just sucks when these old geezers still have some power in the
>>>>> world and you can't just wheel them down the hallway like crazy old 
>>>>> grandma.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 February 2015 at 14:21, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Forced segregation is a shit idea and never works.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope nobody is too surprised by this Japanese womans' ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep in mind she was 8 years old when the Americans dropped the bombs
>>>>> on them.
>>>>>
>>>>> She is 83 now.
>>>>>
>>>>> To expect anything but racism and xenophobia out of her is a bit much.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's all super wrong but we just shouldn't be surprised.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 February 2015 at 14:08, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  HBD Jagson.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 February 2015 at 13:46, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, read about this earlier. How fucked up can you get.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Feb 2015 13:04, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Japan please...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/11414141/Japanese-author-provokes-furious-South-African-response-by-suggesting-a-new-apartheid.html
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Feb 2015 12:53, "Moshe Shevel" <jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Haha thanks guys :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Feb 2015 12:47 PM, "Sameegh Jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Happy Birthday Jag, hope you have an awesome one :]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Feb 2015, at 12:41 PM, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Oh, nice one Ilit. You couldn’t have posted that first thing this
>>>>> morning, could you? So we’re now all the schmucks who didn’t realise it 
>>>>> was
>>>>> his birthday.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In other news, HDB Jag.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>> *Sent:* 16 February 2015 12:37 PM
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HBD Jag!
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