I just don't get how Stu seems to think we can just keep on multiplying and everything will be fine. Come on Stu. On 16 February 2015 at 15:51, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Yeah a middle ground understanding sounds good. > > > On 16 February 2015 at 15:47, sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> lol, I hear you. I think there's a happy compromise somewhere in the >> middle of all of this though. >> >> If people simply consumed less one wouldn't need to cut down the >> population. It's easier to adjust your lifestyle than it is to play with >> population sizes I'd think. Also, even if you cut down the population in >> terms of size, what's to stop the remaining population from simply wanting >> even more? >> >> My wife and I share a meal at Burger King. We literally cut the thing in >> half. I'm not saying everyone needs to share their burgers but my point is >> that one meal fills both of us sufficiently. People tend to base how much >> they eat on what size their meal comes in and tend to overestimate how much >> the really need :P >> >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx >> > wrote: >> >>> What? >>> You do realize that you need more things for more people right ? >>> Less people ~ less things needed. >>> Population control doesn't have to be approached like china or whatever. >>> People just need to realize that they should replace themselves, not >>> multiply like crazy. >>> But then you get into the whole "don't tell me how many kids I can have" >>> thing. >>> >>> Conclusion I've come to when talking about this issue is that most >>> people would rather have a big family over a sustainable environment. >>> And when you try to talk the about conservation for the future they >>> completely disregard it as someone else's problem. >>> >>> Basically Stu hates Earth. >>> >>> On 16 February 2015 at 15:19, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Countries with stable populations usually have stable economies or >>>> whatever it is that allows them to be be happy. >>>> I know the tax in most of these countries is very very high but it's >>>> fine because everyone receiving is also paying. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 16 February 2015 at 15:15, sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I tend to agree - I think the bigger issue has got to do with resource >>>>> distribution. People tend to want more than what they really need. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Huh? >>>>>> >>>>>> Too many for what? There is enough space for people to live, more >>>>>> than enough food for the whole planet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure there are lots of issues in the world but overpopulation isn’t >>>>>> actually one of them. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Scheidel >>>>>> *Sent:* 16 February 2015 3:00 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Almost every problem we have as people here on on earth is that there >>>>>> are just too many of us. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 February 2015 at 14:57, Nicholas Robertson-Muir < >>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Just wrote 4 paragraphs of my thoughts on racism and then deleted it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fuck politics. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Feb 2015 14:49, "Ashraf Barendse" <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Damn Japs, why they gotta be racist. Slanty-eyed rice eaters. >>>>>> >>>>>> :P >>>>>> >>>>>> HBD Jag. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah. It's not they discriminate and treat you differently. If >>>>>> you're whatever race and you go to japan. They treat you nicely. It's >>>>>> just >>>>>> the idea of sharing their environment with people they don't know or >>>>>> foreigners. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Also a lot of issue started when Japan allowed thailand to travel to >>>>>> japan by getting a tourist visa on arrival...A LOT of illegal immigrants >>>>>> went in to Japan. I think at least 6,000 in the first 3 months. And the >>>>>> thai tourist are very loud and dirty...throwing shit everywhere, not >>>>>> lining >>>>>> up, etc. Fuelling the japanese xenophobia even more. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Stephen Scheidel < >>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Well there is a difference between pride and hating others. >>>>>> >>>>>> I get what Di is saying though ~ basically it's not so much that they >>>>>> hate other people (they obviously do to some extent) but more that they >>>>>> just want to be around their own kind. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 February 2015 at 14:36, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Pride? >>>>>> >>>>>> It’s not pride behind racism. It’s hate. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong >>>>>> *Sent:* 16 February 2015 2:31 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, asians are pretty racist and xenophobic...so i'm not too >>>>>> surprise they wrote something like that. They're pretty racist and >>>>>> xenophobic among themselves too. Chinese vs Japanese. Thai vs everyone >>>>>> else. Etc. Too much pride in their own race and country. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Stephen Scheidel < >>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think it was on some comedy show I was watching where the guy >>>>>> covers some similar stuff. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some old sports team owner was caught saying something racist and >>>>>> there was a big stink. >>>>>> >>>>>> What the fuck do they expect ? the parents of Americans who are 80+ >>>>>> now where the generation that finished off the Native american holocaust >>>>>> ffs. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It just sucks when these old geezers still have some power in the >>>>>> world and you can't just wheel them down the hallway like crazy old >>>>>> grandma. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 February 2015 at 14:21, Stephen Scheidel < >>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Forced segregation is a shit idea and never works. >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope nobody is too surprised by this Japanese womans' ideas. >>>>>> >>>>>> Keep in mind she was 8 years old when the Americans dropped the bombs >>>>>> on them. >>>>>> >>>>>> She is 83 now. >>>>>> >>>>>> To expect anything but racism and xenophobia out of her is a bit much. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It's all super wrong but we just shouldn't be surprised. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 February 2015 at 14:08, Stephen Scheidel < >>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> HBD Jagson. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 February 2015 at 13:46, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, read about this earlier. How fucked up can you get. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Feb 2015 13:04, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Japan please... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/11414141/Japanese-author-provokes-furious-South-African-response-by-suggesting-a-new-apartheid.html >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Feb 2015 12:53, "Moshe Shevel" <jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Haha thanks guys :) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Feb 2015 12:47 PM, "Sameegh Jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Happy Birthday Jag, hope you have an awesome one :] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Feb 2015, at 12:41 PM, "Donaldson, Alasdair" < >>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, nice one Ilit. You couldn’t have posted that first thing this >>>>>> morning, could you? So we’re now all the schmucks who didn’t realise it >>>>>> was >>>>>> his birthday. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In other news, HDB Jag. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On >>>>>> Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama >>>>>> *Sent:* 16 February 2015 12:37 PM >>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> HBD Jag! >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally >>>>>> privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this >>>>>> e-mail >>>>>> by anyone else is unauthorized. 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