Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
- From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 13:21:02 +0200
Offense is generally easy in GG, while defense is hard (blocking overheads,
blocking ambiguous oki, knowing when to burst etc).
As far execution goes, the basic stuff is generally easier than in a game
like SF, but it does have harder motions (SF doesn't have a lot of forward,
back, HCF stuff). The cancels are easier, but roman cancelling is harder
than FADC if you want to get stuff like Force Roman Cancelling.
As far as combos go, there are tight links, but the links have more to do
with moving in time than pressing a button in time.
eg. Dust, SJ into combo, *immediate air dash* into combo.
The combo part is easy, but if you miss the air dash you drop everything.
It's harder than MvC3 and BB in this regard.
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Who's hard to play in GG?
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> BB wishes it had GGs cast
>>
>> GG cast is fucking godlike
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> From: lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 10:28:30 +0000
>>
>>
>> I disagree, best cast of all fg belongs to bb.
>>
>>
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>> > Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 12:25:28 +0200
>> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > GG has probably one of the best casts in any fg ever I think and
>> > shouldn't be changed.
>> >
>> > KI has like 5 characters and 3 of them are Jago.
>> > gtfo with this super demo fighter ftp bullshit and give us a full game
>> to buy.
>> >
>> > On 07/02/2014, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > > don't get me wrong , all gg's have been great. except for isuka,
>> however,
>> > > making the game on a new console with better graphics is not going to
>> save
>> > > the game unless they give us different chracters
>> > > From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> > > Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 09:18:32 +0000
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > >
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>> > >
>> > > Well since no one here has access to KI, the game isn't going
>> anywhere.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > > On Behalf Of sameegh jardine
>> > >
>> > > Sent: 07 February 2014 11:15 AM
>> > >
>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Xrd > KI
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 11:14 AM, lindsey kiviets <
>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > wrote:
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>> > >
>> > > xrd is meh, theres notinhg really new.
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>> > > Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 11:12:38 +0200
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> > >
>> > > From: sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > It's a given!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Xrd is the where it's at in 2014.
>> > >
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>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Im just praying that the new Guilty Gear takes off properly...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I really fucking hope so
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > All you bastards better get that game :P
>> > >
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>> > >
>> > > Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 10:53:28 +0200
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> > >
>> > > From: sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > It's easier to get the basics of a 2D fighter down, but mastering
>> something
>> > > like SF, Mahvel or KOF is no easy feat.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I find wavedashing easier than plinkdashing as an example.
>> > >
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>> > >
>> > > Similarly, I find staple bnbs easier in TTT than I do in 2D fighters.
>> > >
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>> > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2d learning curve is faster than 3d. when you don't have to worry
>> about
>> > > SS...it's pretty easy...there are a lot of tekken players who can
>> play 2d
>> > > games...but not many 2d game players who can play tekken. because if
>> you
>> > > don't ss in tekken
>> > > or 3d games...you will die.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > When namco dumb downed the game/cut characters for T4...the lost ALL
>> the
>> > > hardcore players ...so that was clearly not the way to go. Actually
>> it's the
>> > > other way round. Tekken is losing casual players but hardcore players
>> are
>> > > still playing
>> > > and enjoying the game. Because with Tag partners, they get to
>> experiment
>> > > with other characters. Once they mastered the characters they play,
>> they
>> > > just partner their mains with other stuff to have fun. More hardcore
>> players
>> > > are appearing in the korean scene.
>> > > The korean players who were popular in BR but isn't present now are
>> either
>> > > grown up and has to work now or they're in the army hahaha BR some of
>> them
>> > > just stop playing because they didn't enjoy it as much. Also they
>> love the
>> > > tagging mechanic because they mastered
>> > > that long time ago in TTT1.
>> > >
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>> > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:37 AM, lindsey kiviets <
>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > and its still failed.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 3d is old news. 2.5d to 2d is the way to go.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > From:
>> > > paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> > >
>> > > Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 08:33:23 +0000
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hopefully the use Tekken vs SF to test the waters a bit with possible
>> > > changes
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > But yea, they need to dumb the game down somehow.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > SC5 needs to be popular lol
>> > >
>> > > They did a amazing job with that game imo. Think its the right
>> balance, not
>> > > too many characters, not too many moves etc. Much easier than tekken
>> to get
>> > > into.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > From:
>> > > alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> > >
>> > > Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 08:26:24 +0000
>> > >
>> > > You really think the complete failure of a game (TTT2 is dead in the
>> West)
>> > > is simply the result of nerfing one character?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I have no idea what Namco could do to save the Tekken series. They're
>> losing
>> > > the hardcore players and the game's learning curve means that you're
>> not
>> > > getting enough new players
>> > > in either. Maybe they just need to reboot the series and make some
>> massive
>> > > changes. The last time they did something like that was T4, and while
>> I
>> > > loved the game, it wasn't exactly loved either.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > From:
>> > > cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > > On Behalf Of Di Lhong
>> > >
>> > > Sent: 07 February 2014 9:57 AM
>> > >
>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Also in BR...tier list was stupid...if you're low tier vs a top tier
>> > > bob...it's really hard to win...while TTT2 is more balanced out.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > T6BR evo is all about d+1 bob...spammable move all day...take that
>> out? they
>> > > all quit tekken and bitch about how the new TTT2 isn't as fun hahaha
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > >
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>> > > Well, when it's best out of 5 format for top 8, it becomes a major
>> > > snorefest.
>> > >
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>> > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > >
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>> > > Tekken not as fun to watch? false. lolz
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>> > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair
>> > > <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > >
>> > > Looking good. It's sad that Tekken isn't there this year, especially
>> since
>> > > last year was so hype with Bronson running through everyone. TTT2
>> just isn't
>> > > actually
>> > > that exciting to watch.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Glad Injustice is still there. KI too.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Anyways, Nick - any luck on the venue thing for Evo weekend? Uh, you
>> were
>> > > looking around for one, right?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > From:
>> > > cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > > On Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
>> > >
>> > > Sent: 07 February 2014 6:28 AM
>> > >
>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > >
>> http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2014/feb/06/evo-2014-game-line-be-announced-tonight-iplaywinners-fray-catch-live-stream-here/
>> > >
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>> > >
>> > > i agree with most of the line up however , to be fair , KI shouldnt be
>> > > there. its still early days and i doubt they'l be releasing extra 4
>> > > characters befo evo. LOL @ sfxt.
>> > > BB is gna be sooo HYPE.
>> > > Official EVO 2014 game line up
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > * Ultra Street Fighter 4
>> > >
>> > > * Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3
>> > >
>> > > * Injustice: Gods Among Us
>> > >
>> > > * King of Fighters 13
>> > >
>> > > * Killer Instinct
>> > >
>> > > * Blazblue Chrono Phantasma
>> > >
>> > > * Super Smash Bros. Melee (a spot is reserved for Melee but Nintendo
>> must
>> > > approve first. Discussions currently taking place)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Additional notes:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > * Mr. Wizard stated that after EVO 2013, Tekken has dropped off a
>> bit. With
>> > > this year being the game's 20th anniversary, the EVO team didn't want
>> to
>> > > risk having a new version of Tekken be released, while an outdated
>> version
>> > > is on the game line up, so the franchise
>> > > was omitted this year.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > * Instead of having designated Road to EVO events, major tournaments
>> with a
>> > > certain amount of entrants will qualify for seeding points. Tournament
>> > > organizers of majors events will have to submit results to the EVO
>> team. Mr.
>> > > Wizard mentioned that the system
>> > > is still being worked out. These results will only apply for games on
>> the
>> > > EVO line up.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > * This year is the 20th anniversary of Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo.
>> > > Tournament of Legends will be back this year, and EVO will also be
>> holding
>> > > the 3v3, single elimination tournament, X-Mania US, the national
>> Super Turbo
>> > > event from Japan.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > * Exhibition matches aren't currently scheduled, but will be fit into
>> the
>> > > line up if they can get set up. Combo videos will return if the
>> community
>> > > makes them.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > * If Kokonoe were to stay the way she is now in Blazblue Chrono
>> Phantasma,
>> > > she would be banned at EVO. She will be allowed however, as a patch to
>> > > balance her is incoming.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > * Developer panels will be returning this year.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > * Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 will be 3 out of 5, as long as EVO
>> doesn't
>> > > have double the entrants as last year. Other games getting 3 out of 5
>> in top
>> > > 8 will be dependent on how each game plays out.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > * Bring Your Own Console will be back this year, and there will be
>> > > designated areas for players who want to run side tournaments.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 02:30:34 +0200
>> > >
>> > > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> > >
>> > > From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > It's like Capcom and SFIV. They own the IP, Dimps developed it.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > >
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>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Xrd!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 22:05:32 +0200
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> > >
>> > > From:
>> > > gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > KI is shit anyway.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 6 February 2014 21:26, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Handing out an Ip means you let go of the reigns.
>> > >
>> > > Good luck catching the horse again.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 6 Feb 2014 21:20, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > no , DH are just the developers of the game.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > MS asked them to make a fg . they were doing a goodjob and MS didnt
>> like
>> > > that. sigh, now i never get to play it. its probably all downhill
>> from here.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 21:16:42 +0200
>> > >
>> > > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> > >
>> > > From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > Rare owned Killer Instinct, MicroScrotums owned Rare.
>> > >
>> > > Double Helix now owns Killer Instinct.
>> > >
>> > > Amazon now owns Double Helix.
>> > >
>> > > Sounds like a planned Coup.
>> > >
>> > > On 6 Feb 2014 20:53, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > MS owns killer instinct. its not coming on ps anytime soon
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 20:38:29 +0200
>> > >
>> > > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> > >
>> > > From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > > Yeh, I was as surprised as my opponent.
>> > >
>> > > No scrap that, he had the look of someone whose soul had been stolen
>> by
>> > > Shang Tsung.
>> > >
>> > > Cool guy, would've been neet if he spoke more.
>> > >
>> > > But then, compared to most, I spout verbal diarrhea like Rufus -
>> That's a
>> > > close 2nd to GB.
>> > >
>> > > I called the whole Killer Instinct "buy out" when the studio was born.
>> > >
>> > > Not sell on more than just 1 platform?
>> > >
>> > > That's akin to game programming suicide. I expect to see the game
>> coming to
>> > > all platforms. The great Enno has predixiated.
>> > >
>> > > On 6 Feb 2014 20:06, "Jack Steel" <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >> Great kof 13 vid.Tht anoaxe goro combo wicked finish.greatness!
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