[bookshare-discuss] Re: How Many NLS Members? (was) Re: Bad scan Wheel of Time 3

  • From: "Tiffany H. Jessen" <tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 20:48:31 -0500

I guess I'm odd. I much prefer the synthesized     speech of the
computer, Pac mate, or book port over any human narrator. I admit I used to
prefer to read audio books, but I always had the urge to kick them to go
faster. Besides being able to speed up the synthesized book, I can also
customize the voice to my liking. Additionally, if need be I can have the
books being read with a synthesizer spell specific words, and or navigate to
areas either in particular intervals or more easily by doing a search for a
particular word or fraze.
All of this says nothing to the factor of space.
A few years ago I went to Europe and brought my four track walkman and at
least a dozen cassettes and still ran out of reading materials and had to
borrow books from other people. The next year I went back with my book port
and one compact flash card with dozens, or if I wanted hundreds of book
options.
Now, to compare book share verses web braille, Obviously I would prefer an
error free formatted file from web braille, but if I have to wait months to
get it, if at all, I'd rather deal with the errors.
Just my opinion..

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:14 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: How Many NLS Members? (was) Re: Bad scan
Wheel of Time 3



If I understand your messagte correctly, why would you prefer synthetic
speech for reading your books in preference to human speech on Talking
Books; and if you are a braille reader why would you prefer nonformatted
books with errors as opposed to NLS produced braille books. Personally,
the only time I prefer Bookshare books is when they are not available from
NLS which I always check first.
----- Original Message ----- From: "robert tweedy" <rtweedy2@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:46 AM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: How Many NLS Members? (was) Re: Bad scan
Wheel of Time 3



Remember this though, people who get talking books can also get books
from Bookshare but there are probably a lot of readers who prefer
bookshare over NLS, speaking for myself anyway, I like bookshare. I think
books for the NLS should be scanned for bookshare for they aren't in the
collection. Since I get the Talking book topics and Braille review on the
floppy, it is easier to open the brooser to check them with bookshare.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:36 AM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] How Many NLS Members? (was) Re: Bad scan
Wheel of Time 3



This reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask:  Does anyone
here have any idea what proportion of Bookshare members are NLS members?
I was reminded because _The Dragon Reborn_ as well as all the other
Wheel of Time books except _Knife of Dreams_ are available from NLS.

I would expect that anyone eligible for Bookshare membership should be
eligible for NLS membership except for people who are not U.S. citizens?
Are there any other categories of people who can get Bookshare but not
NLS? Are there people who can get NLS but not Bookshare?

I am curious because there are some really great books which are not on
Bookshare which are available from NLS.  If the number of Bookshare
members who are not - or cannot be - NLS members is very small, then I
don't know whether it would be worth the time and effort to scan books
that are already available there.  But if - for whatever reason - a
substantial minority - I don't know what fraction that would be
exactly - aren't able to get books from NLS, then these books should be
scanned even though they are available there.  My first inclination is
to want to put up books which aren't available anywhere else, either NLS
or RFB&
D; RFB&D I don't think should count, though, but perhaps it should?  I
don't know.  But I would be willing to scan some books that I feel
should be accessible and put them up here if there are a lot of people
who can't get them from NLS.  Sorry, but I'm not inclined to do it just
for people who simply prefer reading in Braille, though.  I'm an avid
Braille reader myself, but if something is already available on tape,
then that's how I read it.

There are already quite a few books up here which are recorded from NLS,
maybe because people didn't know they were available, or because they
didn't want to wait the inordinate amount of time NLS seems to take.  I
have submitted books for that reason myself.  But books that are already
available from NLS and which are not yet on Bookshare are the ones I'm
talking about, or, in the case of _The Dragon Reborn_, books which seem
to have quality problems.

Thanks for any insights.  I would imagine this has been discussed here
before.  I would expect that the issue of duplicating work done by other
services has been brought up here, but it was before my time.  If so,
sorry for bringing it up again, but maybe someone could give me the gist
of what the thinking was about this.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Baechler" <bookshare@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:19 AM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Bad scan Wheel of Time 3



Hello all,

I've noticed that The Dragon Reborn by Robert Jordan apparently needs
work.  It is book 3 in the Wheel of Time series.  I've finished the
first two books and liked them but book 3 is difficult to read at best.
The scan is OK but the words run together without spaces.  Often there
will be a word, period to indicate the sentence end, and another word
with no space.  Sometimes I just get clumps of letters which I suppose
are supposed to be words but I can't figure them out.  Would someone
look into this and possibly rescan?  Maybe someone on the volunteer
list can help. It looks like a great book if it was more readable.  Be
warned, it's huge though!

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