If blind people are using it, it is indeed accessible to them. Blind people are also using the Shuffle. I will probably get one sometime in the future. At 05:52 PM 4/10/2005, you wrote: >Just because blind people are using the Ipod doesn't mean it's accessible. >Now, the shuffle might be but I'm not sure. The only accessible MP3 player >I know of is the, Archose and I believe it's been discontinued but Iriver is >supposed to be adapting a model for the accessible Rock Box software and it >will be available soon. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Otto Zamora" <8zamora@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:00 PM >Subject: [bookport] Re: USB power > > >: Hello, >: >: A lot of that has to do with what you think is accessible. >: A unit which does not tell you what you have on it's hard drive is in my >: opinion not accessible. >: The fact that blind people have it and are using it, does not mean >: accessibility, it just means they are willing to put up with the fact that >: once you have your music on the unit, assuming of course that you can use >: the software to transfer to the I pod, the one I saw relegates the blind >: user to shooting in the dark, and hoping a song comes up you want to hear. >: If that is not the case, then someone hear explain how when you have 300 >: cd's on your unit, how you know exactly what you have. >: I for one, waited until units like the BP came out, and I suspect that at >: some point, a speech friendly unit will come out with a hard drive. >: >: >: Otto >: >: -----Original Message----- >: From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >: On Behalf Of Sandy Licht >: Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 1:00 PM >: To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >: Subject: [bookport] Re: USB power >: >: Just for the sake of information... blind people are using the I-pod. >Quite >: a few are using the I-pod Shuffle. It goes to show, what is not >accessible >: for might just be accessible to another and visa versa. >: >: At 02:52 AM 4/9/2005, you wrote: >: >Hello, >: > >: >Unless things have changed, on the I pod you have to send your unit >: >back when your battery dies to have them put in a new one, read this in >: >sound an vision, which is why I would never buy a I pod even if it were >: >accessible which it is not. >: >One of the reasons I bought the bookport, was the double A batteries, >: >and knowing that wherever I was, be it abroad or in the states, I could >: >walk into just about any store, and pick up more juice for the unit. >: > >: >Otto >: > >: >-----Original Message----- >: >From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >: >[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >: >On Behalf Of Aman Singer >: >Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 5:07 PM >: >To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >: >Subject: [bookport] Re: USB power >: > >: >Hi. >: > Another problem with embedded rechargeable batteries, like >: >those on the Ipod, Archos v2 units, Pacmate, etc, is that they will, >: >eventually, die permanently. See >: > http://www.batteryuniversity.com >: > which states that a lithium-ion battery has a 3 year useful >: >life, and that this life is to be measured from the time of manufacture. >: >Obviously, this is not a problem with the current configuration. With a >: >rechargeable battery, even if it lasted 100 hours and charged in 15 >: >minutes, you would have to send the unit back to APH when the battery >: >died or, at the very least, order a new one from APH that you could >install >: yourself. >: > Aman >: > >: >-----Original Message----- >: >From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >: >[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >: >On Behalf Of Sandy Licht >: >Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:02 PM >: >To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >: >Subject: [bookport] Re: USB power >: > >: >If rechargeable batteries are indeed on the menu, why not have one >: >similar to the one on the I-pod Shuffle... probably on other models as >: >well? When you connect the Shuffle to the USB port, it recharges the >: >batteries. Just a thought. >: > >: >At 02:11 PM 4/8/2005, you wrote: >: > >I would not like an internal rechargeable battery. I am with you, >: > >Larry. A new bookport is only two double a batteries away. >: > >If it had an internal rechargeable, you would have to recharge it for >: > >two hours or more. >: > >At 4/8/2005, you wrote: >: > > >: > > >While we are on this subject. >: > > > >: > > >What is the opinion of the list on the subject of rechargeable vs >: > > >alkalyn batteries in a future Book Port design? >: > > > >: > > >I am personally very happy with the way the current system works, >: > > >because there is never any down time while the unit recharges, you >: > > >don't have to take a charger with you, and power is always just two >: > > >AAs >: >away. >: > > > >: > > > >>> ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Friday, April 08, 2005 8:32:41 AM >>> >: > > >Ok, Larry is the man and if the man says yes, then yes it is. Is >: > > >there no limit to how good this product can be? >: > > > >: > > > >: > > > >: > > >-----Original Message----- >: > > >From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >: > > >[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of LARRY SKUTCHAN >: > > >Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 6:32 AM >: > > >To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >: > > >Subject: [bookport] Re: USB power >: > > > >: > > > >: > > >Yes, that is our intent. >: > > > >: > > > >: > > > >>> joenorton1@xxxxxxxxxxx Friday, April 08, 2005 5:35:42 AM >>> >: > > >Hi APH and listers: >: > > > >: > > >I know that the BookPort while plugged into the USB port uses a >: > > >certain >: > > > >: > > >amount of power from the batteries. However, it occurs to me that >: > > >the USB port can provide all the power needed and it seems odd that >: > > >the BP couldn't take advantage of this instead of draining the >: > > >batteries for this function. My Braille display at work runs >: > > >completely off the USB port >: > > > >: > > >without the need for any other external power source. Could this >: > > >be eventually true of the BP if you ever update the hardware? >: > > > >: > > >Thanks! >: > >: >Sandy Licht >: >Phone: 409-898-8218 >: >Jeremiah 29:11 - 14A >: >11For I know the plans I have for you," says the LORD. "They are plans >: >for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope. >: >12In those days when you pray, I will listen. 13If you look for me in >: >earnest, you will find me when you seek me. 14I will be found by you," >: >says the LORD... >: >: Sandy Licht >: Phone: 409-898-8218 >: Jeremiah 29:11 - 14A >: 11For I know the plans I have for you," says the LORD. "They are plans for >: good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope. >: 12In those days when you pray, I will listen. 13If you look for me in >: earnest, you will find me when you seek me. 14I will be found by you," >says >: the >: LORD... >: >: >: >: >: >: Sandy Licht Phone: 409-898-8218 Jeremiah 29:11 - 14A 11For I know the plans I have for you," says the LORD. "They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope. 12In those days when you pray, I will listen. 13If you look for me in earnest, you will find me when you seek me. 14I will be found by you," says the LORD...