I was ten years old when the Second World War ended. My dad had taken
me to several newsreels showing battle scenes during the war. The
last newsreel we saw showed the American troops and the Russian troops
joining together after having driven back the German troops. They
laughed and slapped one another on the backs, and the Russians grabbed
the heads of Americans and kissed them on both cheeks. It was
wonderful for this ten year old boy to see. World War turned into
World Peace. But the year was not over before I heard on the radio
how Joseph Stalin had tricked Roosevelt and Churchill, and how we
Peace Loving Americans couldn't trust those cheating, back stabbing
Commies. And the same people who I'd seen weeping and laughing along
with me, as the American troops and the Russian troops hugged and
kissed, now snarled and cursed those Russians. That was when I
learned the meaning of the expression, fickle minded.
Of course we never sat in class and compared the American Constitution
with the Constitution of the Soviet Union. We just took the honest,
trustworthy word of our Leaders. They were all honest people,
untouched by the money of the Ruling Class.
We knew this because they told us so. And now only the names have
been changed to introduce the latest pack of crooks.
I actually still blush when some of our American political leaders go
off on Russia or China for doing exactly what our nation is doing. It
gives new meaning to the word, Sellout!
Carl Jarvis
On 3/30/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I never learned anything about the Russian constitution, and I'm sure that
no one else living in the western world did either. One would have had to
seek out that information, and it wouldn't have been all that easy for most
people to do so, before the internet. And if you weren't around in 1946 to
watch how our government was able to demonize the Russian government and its
people in the minds of Americans, you can see a replay of it right now,
starting in 2013 and escalating after the presidential election. And
although Obama was no Stalin, I watched how people blinded themselves to his
faults and made excuses for him from the day he was elected. I remember
having a discussion with Joe on the phone, about him back then. Joe was
doing what every other Democrat was doing, making excuses for him.
Miriam
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Donald Trump
Agreed. And that should be a warning to those who rattle sabers without
knowing how to secure their goal.
When others have control over such important areas as education and the
media, how do we "pre-educate" Americans? How do we undo all of the myths,
the lies and the misconceptions that have been spun in order to keep us
distracted and under the boot of those who own the American Empire?
There were far better men than Joe Stalin, in as far as establishing a
People's Government. But Stalin knew how to grab power. That should be
first and foremost in our minds when a change of government begins.
Given the confusion and distortion hammered into our heads, how do we avoid
handing ourselves over to the Next Stalin?
Carl Jarvis
On 3/29/19, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Frankly, I think that the most democratic constitution with the most
progressive guarantees of human rights that the world has ever known
was the constitution of the Soviet Union. It's too bad that the
Stalinist government ignored it and it is too bad that the Stalinists
took over before it could be fully implemented.
---
Carl Sagan
“ The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It
may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It
may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our
preferences do not determine what's true. ”
― Carl Sagan
On 3/29/2019 7:20 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
Each of us could probably draw up our own "ten most horrible presidents"
list.
And with only a few exceptions, the lists would be different.
Because the United States of America was a myth, a wonderful Fairy
Tale of Once Upon a Time. The new nation's constitution was an
amazing document, a model parroted by nations down through the years.
But all of its freedoms and all of its human rights were not given to
All of the People. This new document, as wonderful as it read, was
meant only for the White, Male, Landed Gentry. The Working Class,
which was most of the remaining population, had to fight constantly
in order to have access to any of those "Inalienable Rights" set down
in the Constitution. Since the men, all White up until Barack Obama
took office some 238 years later, were owned by that Oligarchy,
including Obama, the selection of presidential candidates was
restricted to a very specific group of right-minded men.
Despite the wide variety of surface differences, these men all passed
the approval of those they would serve. On my "Most Horrible" list I
place Andrew Jackson high. Jackson was a cold, heartless Racist of
the First Order. But Andrew Johnson had to be elbowing his way
toward the top spot, too. Grant was incompetent and so was
Harding...as well as being a womanizer and a crook. Wilson and
Truman were "Chicken Hawks" as well as Racists. Even the great FDR
was a mixed bag, playing footsie with the Dixicrats and his dealings
with the Americans of Japanese descent. Kennedy was a pretty boy
womanizer, along with Clinton. Nixon was a Traitor and a liar, and
Reagan was pressed so closely to the backside of the wealthy elite
that his lips were a permanent brown. The first Bush was a kinder
gentler mass murderer and his son was an idiot mass murderer(apologies to
kind, sane, decent
idiots).
Bill Clinton, like Barack Obama, learned to play ball with the
Establishment. Their major difference was that Bill was/is a big
time womanizer, and Obama is...well...is a "compromiser".
This brings me to Donald Trump, and I'm already about 4 or 5 over my
allotted ten. But that's alright, because Donald Trump, despite the
massess of media coverage he receives, is a run of the mill
professional chiseler. He comes in all colors and fancy clothes. He
smirks at you as he sizes up your total worth. He will cheat, or
give generously...although he can give without giving. Donald Trump
is the poster boy for the New Successful American. Donald Trump is
all the things we are told that we value.
What do you think? Look like a picture of you?
Carl Jarvis
On 3/29/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'm not sure I care about historians, nor do I care about Marxist
theory when it comes to judging presidents. and I think we need to
judge what we have on the basis of the reality in which we find
ourselves. In my lifetime, given their effects on the well being of
the majority of people, Trump is the worst. W. Bush is next in line.
But Reagan started us on this road to hell. Truman sinned against
humanity by being responsible for dropping the atom bombs and
starting the cold war. So maybe he's the worst.
Miriam
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Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 3:04 PM
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I don't necessarily give a lot of credence to bourgeois presidential
historians because my class perspective is entirely different than
theirs, but, nevertheless, I understand that until now most
presidential historians named Herbert Hoover as the worst president
ever. I have seen some articles that now name Donald Trump as having
supplanted that position.
---
Carl Sagan
“ The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with.
It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held
prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to
be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true. ”
― Carl Sagan
On 3/29/2019 12:59 AM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
Mostafa wrote: "He's the worst president to ever operate in the
oval office."
Sorry Mostafa, Donald Trump is only one of a large number of
corrupt, mentally unbalanced men to achieve the presidency.
The United States of America has a violent history, which I will
not go into here. But if you care to read a fairly objective and
accurate account of the growth of this nation, read Howard Zinn's
"A People's History of the United States". That Oval Office has
seated some very honorable and honest men. But it has also seen
corrupt and greedy and self serving men.
Personally, I believe that the honest American, who cares about his
people and about how we treat the people of the world, still
outnumber the cheats and those who worship the Golden Calf.
Carl Jarvis
On 3/28/19, Roger Loran Bailey <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Some states split their electoral votes. I think Nebraska is one.
Or am I thinking of another midwest state?
---
Carl Sagan
“ The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple
with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held
prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want
to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true. ”
― Carl Sagan
On 3/28/2019 10:07 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
Mustafa,
I'd like to correct one of the things you said. The majority of
Americans did not elect Donald Trump. If the president were
elected as he or she should be, by a majority of the votes cast,
Hillary Clinton would have won the election. She received 3
million more votes than Mr. Trump. He became President in the
same way that George W. Bush did. Their election was due to a
mechanism called the electoral college. The electoral college was
developed in order to deny the vote to the ordinary people. Each
state is allotted a certain number of electoral votes. If the
majority of the popular vote goes to the Republican party, for
example, then all of the electoral votes in that particular state
go to the presidential candidate.
So if 51% of people in Michigan voted for Trump, he'd get all of
the electoral votes, not 51% of them. He won because a few key
states had a majority of Republican votes.
There are many complicated reasons that explain why the US
government is functioning as it is at this point. But in addition
to all of the historical, sociological, and financial reasons, it
is important to recognize that Donald J. Trump is a mentally,
emotionally disabled man, who, along with having been dishonest
and sheltered by his wealth from the consequences of his actions
for all of his life, is not competent to undertake the tasks of
the presidency.
Miriam
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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:21 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Donald Trump
Well, although I am not American, I'd still like to join the
discussion.
I
wonder, how would George Washington react if he encountered Donald
Trump
operating in the White House? I bet he would have gone mad. He would
say,
who has brought this hellion here? He won't imagine that the
majority
of
Americans are the ones who did.
Trump isn't himself the prob, he's just a tool that governs the
corporal
establishment and its material plethora. It is a system that aids
the
rich
to constantly become richer and the poor shall constantly become
poorer.
As I decisively stated, the practice of lobbyism is the major factor
by
which law enforcement has been perfectly surmounted in the States.
Everyone knew for sure that Trump is a horrific felon, even those
who
categorically defend him.
Nonetheless, with the power of his copious wealth, he was able to
either
threaten or bribe the special council. Perhaps he has done both, who
knows? As Cohen has somewhat purported in his testimonial to
Congress,
Trump is besieged by bunch of guardians including attorneys etc. He
warned
people that Trump doesn't care about allegiance. He'd rather pay
people
to
protect him and to even lie for him if it is necessary. Right now,
Trump
thinks he is wholly protected. No one is higher than him to oppugn
his
deeds. Even congress is bought, and it amply complies to mr Trump
demands.
Donald Trump resembles the mass nescience of average Americans on a
rather
broader scale. They elected him after all. Many of them are
seemingly
in
favour of his typical impudence and inapplicably crude remarks.
Trump's
disgraceful rhetoric is not aliened to us. He perennially clashed
and
expressed disapprobation of reporters asking him questions. He's
just
so
petulant about that. Donald Trump is impeachably caged for
explicitly
uttering racism. He rudely mocked accents of people on stage. He
spoke
terms that are leastwise, quite abhorrent in essence. He easily
mortifies
major rivals. Now, who admitted this incompetent individual to act
swaggeringly in Oval Office? Well, they're just some bunch of
racists.
They're just bunch of outrageous white supremacists who're mostly
Protestants. They're merely bigots and hate provokers. They speak
about
Islam derogatorily. As they incessantly truckle to satisfy the
Zionist
camp, they relentlessly attempt to marginalise, denigrate and
demonise
Islam out of malice. This is how Donald Trump is unremittingly
salvaged,
despite his denotative commission of major offences. He works by and
for
the Zionist lobby and that's quite obvious. Donald Trump has plainly
breached the longly chanted American principles of democracy, ethnic
equality and the allegedly promoted prevention of racial disparity.
He
discourteously assaulted immigrants and people of darker complexion.
He's
the worst president to ever operate in oval office. Many people are
so
lenified with Trump's absonant disposal. They consider him somewhat
their
daddy. Well, he's basically a demagogue. If some of you aren't so
familiar
with this term, he is a political leader who seeks endorsement with
appealing to popular passions and prejudices. This is exactly what
Trump
does. The nuance of longly proclaimed American fundamental
principles
has
been utterly ruined in Trump's miserable era. However, there are
Americans
who're quite disappointed with Trump being unfortunately their
president.
I knew people who left the States shortly after election results
have
declared him winning the presidential race. Donald Trump doesn't
necessarily represent many Americans. He neither doesn't represent
the
American dream. It is essentially based on genuinely practiced
democratic
tenets such as freedom of speech, freedom of embracement as well as
defection of faith or notion. I knew people who felicitously live in
the
States with being Muslims. They never felt disparaged until Trump
came.
I
personally am not so invoked to Americanism. Be that as it may, I do
not
criticise people for their dissension with me. I solely repudiate
acts
that are destined to diminish, slander or manipulate my identity. I
communicate beautifully with people who do not come near my faith
and
heritage. I tolerate difference of opinion and belief. I at the same
time
won't ever neglect my conscience to gratify those of special agenda.
It
is
significantly crucial to recognise that I wholly represent my
culture
and
identity and I am not prepared at any rate to alter that. Thank you
for
reading, cordially.
