[bksvol-discuss] Re: page breaks in K1000

  • From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 22:55:53 -0400

That's what I was thinking, giving credit to whoever wrote the tip.

Grace
----- Original Message ----- From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 9:02 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: page breaks in K1000




I'm not Sarah, but yes, you could. Rui was going to post Donna's message on
Finereader quite sometime ago. As a courtesy it might be nice to give
credit to someone if you post their whole submission, but, like you said,
the messages were sent to share with the whole list, not specifically to one
person.


HTH,

Sue S.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 7:39 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: page breaks in K1000


Sarah:

Do we really need permission to post people's tips? After all, the
information is available in the archives for anyone to see. I have a
folder
of tips that people have posted in the past. Couldn't I use some of that?
Just wondering.

Grace
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:44 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: page breaks in K1000


> Yes, sounds good. I'm most comfortable with Kurzweil, so most of my
tips
> will be for that as well as tips that aren't program specific.
>
> I think the directions from Donna for Abby Fine Reader would be great.
> Can someone ask her for
> permission to post that?  I also really think Karie's directions for
> correct
> title, author, and copyright info should be included if she doesn't
mind.
> Kellie has developed a pretty good method for removing extra line > breaks
> in those really messy books that would be too tedious to fix all by
hand.
> Gerald, could you supply some tips on find and replace in Word?
> I know there is a lot of knowledge and experience in the group on this
> list, and   If people take a little piece of the project it might
actually
> be doable. Compiling all the tips might really be the hardest part.
They
> will need to be organized somehow, and bad suggestions will have to be
> weeded out.
> I also think it might help the work load if links to some information
can
> be made instead of making one person create all the web pages from the
> written tips.  Reformatting E-mail messages that we have permission to
> turn in to web pages will take a little bit of reconstruction.  I'm
> willing to provide what I can, which would include some web space, some
> tips, and some time and effort in creating pages from submitted tips.
We
> just have to work out how to organize the work, and what kind of
standards
> we want to follow in the presentation of the pages.
>
> Sorry if this is messy.  I was preocupied with a show on TV part of the
> time i was writing. :-)
>
> Sarah Van Oosterwijck
> Assistive Technology Trainer
> http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:00 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: page breaks in K1000
>
>
>> HI Sarah:
>>
>> I have a suggestion, why don't we create a list of tips for best
scanning
>> results as well as validating. I will ask Rui to post it on his
>> booksharescans page and perhaps Jake won't mind posting it on his page
as
>> well. So if you want to write something you can. If you'd like we can
>> work together on it also.
>>
>> If anyone wants to write tips you can send it to me and I will make
sure
>> that posted on Rui's page. I think I still have Donna's post on
scanning
>> with fine reader. I will include that too.
>>
>> So what does everyone think? Comments? Suggestions?
>>
>> Grace
>>
>> silvara@xxxxxxx
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 3:23 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: page breaks in K1000
>>
>>
>>> Different software is not needed.  It is only necessary for people to
>>> leave in the page numbers when submitting a book, so a validator is
able
>>> to confirm that page breaks and page numbers occur as matched pairs.
>>> Submitters also need to set their software for two page scanning when
>>> they are scanning books by laying the whole book flat on the scanner.
>>> Scanning software does not ordinarily leave out page breaks, and it
has
>>> already been determined that the bookshare tools recognize section
>>> breaks, like those used by Fine Engine, as page breaks.  They can be
>>> changed for a validators convenience to page breaks, but leaving them
>>> would be fine as far as bookshare is concerned.  As Gerald pointed
out,
>>> they are not the same as soft page breaks, which don't exist at all >>> in
>>> the saved file. They are only a product of your Word processor's
>>> imagination, or it's printer margin settings if you prefer the
technical
>>> explanation. :-)
>>> Page break loss is usually caused by someone saving the scanned book
in
>>> TXT format, but it does seem to occasionally happen for some other
>>> reason that no one has been able to explain. :-)
>>>
>>> More than anything else bookshare seems to need to provide a section
of
>>> website for their volunteers. They need to collect resources
explaining
>>> how to supply bookshare with high quality scans, and how validators
can
>>> insure what they review is acceptable.  Currently bookshare only
>>> provides a very short document explaining what is acceptable, but
giving
>>> no hint about how to go about checking those things.
>>>
>>> I'd be happy to help with that project, but I don't think I am >>> willing
>>> to take the responsibility for explaining standards and techniques on
my
>>> own. I could write up some tips and put them on my webpage, but there
>>> may be those that would disagree with what I said.  I also don't know
>>> how people would ever know to look there when my page has nothing to
do
>>> with bookshare.
>>>
>>> I know bookshare doesn't have the time to provide these resources, >>> but
>>> they might at least consider accepting tip pages written by >>> volunteers
>>> and be willing to post them if they find the content of those pages
>>> acceptable. Again, I don't know who to suggest this too, and I am far
>>> from the first person to express these thoughts.
>>>
>>> Sarah Van Oosterwijck
>>> Assistive Technology Trainer
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
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