[bksvol-discuss] Re: page breaks in K1000

  • From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 11:01:39 -0500

Good, Tiff.  I will forward those tips to Grace so she can use them on the
websites.

Sue S.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tiffany H. Jessen" <tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:09 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: page breaks in K1000


> I have already forwarded a number of lost things directly to Sue, but if
> anyone else wants something sent again, feel free to email me at
> tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> and I'll look through my sent folder.
> Additionally, if someone liked something I wrote you're welcome to forward
> and/or use it on any of the tips websites.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 6:03 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: page breaks in K1000
>
>
> >
> > Grace,
> >
> > This is a great idea!  I had a folder entitled Tech Tips but
> unfortunately,
> > when I deleted some unwanted folders that one was deleted.  It was tips
I
> > was collec ting that people put on this list..  Tiffany Jessen is a good
> > source for tips as well.  Maybe she would resubmit some of her tips on
> JAWS
> > and Word.  <smile>
> >
> > Sue S.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:00 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: page breaks in K1000
> >
> >
> > > HI Sarah:
> > >
> > > I have a suggestion, why don't we create a list of tips for best
> scanning
> > > results as well as validating. I will ask Rui to post it on his
> > > booksharescans page and perhaps Jake won't mind posting it on his page
> as
> > > well. So if you want to write something you can. If you'd like we can
> work
> > > together on it also.
> > >
> > > If anyone wants to write tips you can send it to me and I will make
sure
> > > that posted on Rui's page. I think I still have Donna's post on
scanning
> > > with fine reader. I will include that too.
> > >
> > > So what does everyone think? Comments? Suggestions?
> > >
> > > Grace
> > >
> > > silvara@xxxxxxx
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 3:23 PM
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: page breaks in K1000
> > >
> > >
> > > > Different software is not needed.  It is only necessary for people
to
> > > > leave in the page numbers when submitting a book, so a validator is
> able
> > > > to confirm that page breaks and page numbers occur as matched pairs.
> > > > Submitters also need to set their software for two page scanning
when
> > they
> > > > are scanning books by laying the whole book flat on the scanner.
> > Scanning
> > > > software does not ordinarily leave out page breaks, and it has
already
> > > > been determined that the bookshare tools recognize section breaks,
> like
> > > > those used by Fine Engine, as page breaks.  They can be changed for
a
> > > > validators convenience to page breaks, but leaving them would be
fine
> as
> > > > far as bookshare is concerned.  As Gerald pointed out, they are not
> the
> > > > same as soft page breaks, which don't exist at all in the saved
file.
> > They
> > > > are only a product of your Word processor's imagination, or it's
> printer
> > > > margin settings if you prefer the technical explanation. :-)
> > > > Page break loss is usually caused by someone saving the scanned book
> in
> > > > TXT format, but it does seem to occasionally happen for some other
> > reason
> > > > that no one has been able to explain. :-)
> > > >
> > > > More than anything else bookshare seems to need to provide a section
> of
> > > > website for their volunteers.  They need to collect resources
> explaining
> > > > how to supply bookshare with high quality scans, and how validators
> can
> > > > insure what they review is acceptable.  Currently bookshare only
> > provides
> > > > a very short document explaining what is acceptable, but giving no
> hint
> > > > about how to go about checking those things.
> > > >
> > > > I'd be happy to help with that project, but I don't think I am
willing
> > to
> > > > take the responsibility for explaining standards and techniques on
my
> > own.
> > > > I could write up some tips and put them on my webpage, but there may
> be
> > > > those that would disagree with what I said.  I also don't know how
> > people
> > > > would ever know to look there when my page has nothing to do with
> > > > bookshare.
> > > >
> > > > I know bookshare doesn't have the time to provide these resources,
but
> > > > they might at least consider accepting tip pages written by
volunteers
> > and
> > > > be willing to post them if they find the content of those pages
> > > > acceptable. Again, I don't know who to suggest this too, and I am
far
> > from
> > > > the first person to express these thoughts.
> > > >
> > > > Sarah Van Oosterwijck
> > > > Assistive Technology Trainer
> > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
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