[bksvol-discuss] Re: my disappointment

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 23:54:51 -0700 (PDT)

I think you can either submit it as a BSO or perhaps send it to Carrie and see 
if she'll replace it. I'm pretty sure the original submitter and validator 
would not get their credits taken away. Some of these books were added long ago 
and it would be impossible, I should think.


--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Amy Goldring Tajalli <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Amy Goldring Tajalli <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: my disappointment
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:51 PM
> Hi all,
>  While I get frustrated by books that need correction when
> all I want to do is read them, I view it as a challenge and
> an invitation to re-validate the book. Is this where I
> should submit the finished product as a BSO? Even if it is
> only inserting and deleting page breaks so that the
> bookshare reader can find the page number cited elsewhere. 
> I may not get all of the errors bu t I do try and the weird
> pronunciation of my reader does make me double-check some
> words which I might otherwise miss even if they drive me
> crazy.
> I do have a question. Do I submit a BSO or whatever I have
> done as a step one or what? And what of the original scanner
> & validater?
> Amy
> omsm 
> --
> It if be now, 'tis not to come,
> If it be not to come, it will be now,
> If it be now now, Yet it will come.
> The readiness is all.
> Wm. Shakespeare 
>   -------------- Original message from "Jill
> O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> --------------
> > I know I'm preaching to the choir here but I guess
> I hope someone from 
> > Bookshare staff will see this and begin to think how
> the situation can be 
> > improved. I am presently reading for pleasure Out of
> the Deep I cry by Julia 
> > Spencer-fleming. It is a mystery and I highly
> recommend her books for you 
> > mystery buffs out there. This book has an excellent
> rating and was scanned, 
> > of course, by the infamous bookshare volunteer. I may
> be exaggerating a bit 
> > but there is hardly a page in this book that does not
> have a mistake of some 
> > type, including such things as die for the, mat for
> that, etc. etc. My point 
> > in talking about this is to say that it is obvious
> that neither the 
> > submitter nor the validator read this book. In my
> opinion if the submitter 
> > has not read the book being submitted, this should be
> made clear, then 
> > hopefully only a validator who is interested in
> reading the book should take 
> > it. I can understand if someone volunteers to scan a
> book on the wish list 
> > that they are really not that interested in, but in
> that case it is even 
> > more important that thevalidator wants to read the
> book. If no validator 
> > wants to read it including the person who put it on
> the wish list, then I 
> > would suggest that the book isn't worth being in
> the colection. I hope some 
> > day I feel like taking the time to rescan this book
> because I am ashamed 
> > that it will be left on the excellent list otherwise.
> And, of course, that 
> > means Bookshare will pay $10 instead of $5 to have the
> book in the 
> > collection. I know this book can't have been in
> the collection for a long 
> > time by the way it is presented in braille. That means
> that scanners are 
> > capable of doing a far better job  of scanning than is
> seen here. I recently 
> > validated a book submitted by Jim Baugh and you know
> what a great job he 
> > does. I was reading the book along with others and
> realized I was really 
> > holding up his book too long so I put it through
> Kurzweil's paces and 
> > submitted it. When I picked it up later as an approved
> book to finish 
> > reading it, I recorded 22 mistakes that I had missed.
> That is an acceptable 
> > number even though I feel bad about it but I think it
> proves how necessary 
> > it is that someone, be it submitter or validator
> really reads the book from 
> > cover to cover. And now that validators are being paid
> $2.50 per book, that 
> > means that only twenty books need to be read carefully
> per year in order to 
> > maintain a free membership. Thank you all for letting
> me vent and I 
> > sincerely hope that the Bookshare staff can find some
> way to express these 
> > concerns to those volunteers not on this list. Jill 
> > 
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