Shelly, the shifter hyphen is actually an underscore, which in most cases is another junk char to be rid of. Guido Guido D. Corona IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx. IBM Research, Phone: (512) 838-9735 Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx Visit my weekly Accessibility WebLog at: http://www-3.ibm.com/able/weblog/corona_weblog.html "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 06/17/2004 12:50 PM Please respond to bksvol-discuss To <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject [bksvol-discuss] Re: m dash Hey Guido, and others, I was noticing on my parents keyboard, that they have a way of creating a M dash with the shift plus the Hyphen. Not sure if this is on all keyboards, as Mine has I am thinking the underline, but this one is a M dash. It is a compact, from last year, August I suspect was the release date, we bought it over Memorial Day as a Wal-Mart deal Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Advisory Council www.guidedogs.com If a friend is in trouble, don't annoy him by asking if there is anything you can do. Think up something appropriate and do it. -- Edgar Watson Howe