Hi, Pam. That's odd. I have a 1650, so yours is newer than mine. There are things gray scale does well, but there are things it doesn't, just like any other setting, I suppose. Sometimes, playing with some of the settings is just par for the course, depending on the book. Gray scale is what I usually use for book covers, though. Take care. Julie Morales Email and Windows/MSN Messenger: inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because He wants to put a rainbow in your heart. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Quinn" <quinns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 3:32 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: kurzweil vs. finereader Hi Julie, I have an epson 1660. Don't know if the settings depend on the scanner or not, but I am getting good scans with dynamic threshhold. Was just surprised that I had to play with the settings as much. That's got me curious though, wondering why gray scale doesn't seem to work for mine. Pam