[bksvol-discuss] Re: ark files waiting validation
- From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:24:25 -0500
Hi Scott,
I submittedt my first few books in ARK format. If I had not been on this
list and had people explain why RTF was better, I would have submitted all 70+
books that are currently on the system in ARK. I didn't do that because I
didn't understand how to convert, I did it because BookShare's scanning
preferences says to do it. Since then I have seen other volunteers be advised
to use RTF and they have done so. This list for instance represents a very
small subset of volunteers though. Here's the URL where I found the ARK
preference and the relative part pasted below.
http://www.bookshare.org/web/SupportScanningPref.html
. If you are using OpenBook, WYNN, or the Kurzweil 1000 version 6 or Kurzweil
3000, save the scan in the default format for the program. For example, for
OpenBook the default results in a file with the extension .ark. For the
Kurzweil products, the default results in a file with the extension .kes.
I have said it ever since I learned RTF was prefered, the page needs to be
changed. I know BookShare is terribly understaffed and that everyone is doing
as much as they can, but changing this small detail so that the quality of the
collection might improve seems like it would be worthwhile.
As for validating ARK files, I'd be more than happy to download and convert
each one to RTF if BookShare had a place for me to put them. I tend to prefer
scanning as then I actually have the books in hand. As well, without K1K it's
harder to tell the quality of a book without reading it cover to cover,
something I'm not interested in doing with many of the ARK submissions.
Cheers!
Jake
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Blanks
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 12:55 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ark files waiting validation
That's too bad. And it's not like it would be hard for people who use
Openbook to convert their books to .rtf before they submit. I guess if they
don't know they can do it, they won't do it. Do the volunteers who join
Bookshare, and I'm asking because I can't remember myself, get specific
instructions encouraging .rtf submissions whenever possible, including using
OpenBook or Kurzweil?
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Silvara
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:41 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ark files waiting validation
Hi Scott:
You can't do that because you'd have to resubmit the book and so the
original person who submitted it wouldn't get the credit. And also you'd have
to reject the ark.
Many of the ark file are text books. I really dislike validating those.
However, I try to validate 1 text book amonth.
I just validated a book about Crumwell. It took some time because it wasn't
scanned with 2 page mode, I had to add the page breaks.
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Blanks
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 1:36 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ark files waiting validation
I'll be honest, I've tried validating, and unless the book is something I
like, I don't feel comfortable validating it. That's why I usually scan, and
then validate the same book. My question is, could I download an ark file from
the step 1 page and convert it to rtf and then put it back on the step 1 page
so that someone else might validate it?
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Silvara
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:26 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ark files waiting validation
I also have openbook. So if there's an ark book on the download page
that you're dying to read, let me know and I will validate it. However, it may
be after convention since I am going to the NFB convention.
BTW, 1 of the books that I am working on is an ark. Lately I've
ignored the arks and been doing txt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cheryl Fogle
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 2:07 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] ark files waiting validation
Hi All. I think from the scanning discussions most of us use
kurzweil which means all those ark files from openbook can't be validated. I
think a good project for someone like Gisela or any other openbook users would
be to convert .ark to .rtf so more books can be validated. I have an old
version of open book v4.0 I think before switching to Kurzweil a few years ago.
I can't convert .ark files from newer versions of openbook. In fact, the only
reason I still have my old version is that I'm converting some personal and
textbook files to .rtf. I also save kurzweil files as .rtf so I can refer to
them within word when writing papers or reports for school and work.
Just some thoughts.
Cheryl Fogle MA
Ph.D. candidate in Anthropology, University of New Mexico
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