[bksvol-discuss] Re: ark files waiting validation
- From: "Scott Blanks" <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:31:01 -0400
Hey Jake and others,
I wonder if the information Jake posted which came from Bookshare should be
updated to reflect the preference for rtf files. Is that something that
could be easily accomplished?
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Jake Brownell
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 6:24 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ark files waiting validation
Hi Scott,
I submittedt my first few books in ARK format. If I had not been on
this list and had people explain why RTF was better, I would have submitted
all 70+ books that are currently on the system in ARK. I didn't do that
because I didn't understand how to convert, I did it because BookShare's
scanning preferences says to do it. Since then I have seen other volunteers
be advised to use RTF and they have done so. This list for instance
represents a very small subset of volunteers though. Here's the URL where I
found the ARK preference and the relative part pasted below.
http://www.bookshare.org/web/SupportScanningPref.html
. If you are using OpenBook, WYNN, or the Kurzweil 1000 version 6 or
Kurzweil 3000, save the scan in the default format for the program. For
example, for OpenBook the default results in a file with the extension .ark.
For the Kurzweil products, the default results in a file with the extension
.kes.
I have said it ever since I learned RTF was prefered, the page needs to be
changed. I know BookShare is terribly understaffed and that everyone is
doing as much as they can, but changing this small detail so that the
quality of the collection might improve seems like it would be worthwhile.
As for validating ARK files, I'd be more than happy to download and
convert each one to RTF if BookShare had a place for me to put them. I tend
to prefer scanning as then I actually have the books in hand. As well,
without K1K it's harder to tell the quality of a book without reading it
cover to cover, something I'm not interested in doing with many of the ARK
submissions.
Cheers!
Jake
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Blanks
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 12:55 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ark files waiting validation
That's too bad. And it's not like it would be hard for people who use
Openbook to convert their books to .rtf before they submit. I guess if they
don't know they can do it, they won't do it. Do the volunteers who join
Bookshare, and I'm asking because I can't remember myself, get specific
instructions encouraging .rtf submissions whenever possible, including using
OpenBook or Kurzweil?
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Silvara
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:41 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ark files waiting validation
Hi Scott:
You can't do that because you'd have to resubmit the book and so the
original person who submitted it wouldn't get the credit. And also you'd
have to reject the ark.
Many of the ark file are text books. I really dislike validating
those. However, I try to validate 1 text book amonth.
I just validated a book about Crumwell. It took some time because it
wasn't scanned with 2 page mode, I had to add the page breaks.
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Blanks
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 1:36 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ark files waiting validation
I'll be honest, I've tried validating, and unless the book is
something I like, I don't feel comfortable validating it. That's why I
usually scan, and then validate the same book. My question is, could I
download an ark file from the step 1 page and convert it to rtf and then put
it back on the step 1 page so that someone else might validate it?
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Silvara
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:26 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ark files waiting validation
I also have openbook. So if there's an ark book on the download
page that you're dying to read, let me know and I will validate it. However,
it may be after convention since I am going to the NFB convention.
BTW, 1 of the books that I am working on is an ark. Lately I've
ignored the arks and been doing txt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cheryl Fogle
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 2:07 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] ark files waiting validation
Hi All. I think from the scanning discussions most of us use
kurzweil which means all those ark files from openbook can't be validated.
I think a good project for someone like Gisela or any other openbook users
would be to convert .ark to .rtf so more books can be validated. I have an
old version of open book v4.0 I think before switching to Kurzweil a few
years ago. I can't convert .ark files from newer versions of openbook. In
fact, the only reason I still have my old version is that I'm converting
some personal and textbook files to .rtf. I also save kurzweil files as
.rtf so I can refer to them within word when writing papers or reports for
school and work.
Just some thoughts.
Cheryl Fogle MA
Ph.D. candidate in Anthropology, University of New Mexico
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