[bksvol-discuss] Re: Web Site Suggestions
- From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:17:29 -0600
Another command to use in JAWS is the next non-link text command witch
is simply the letter n. That will go through the table reading only the
first entry which is the title. It's a bit easier on the fingers than
control-alt-DownArrow.
Sarah Van Oosterwijck
http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tiffany H. Jessen" <tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 3:30 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Web Site Suggestions
> I agree that this is a good idea, but just as a suggestion until this
may or
> not become possible, since these books are in a table, you don't have
to
> arrow or tab past each of these download links for each book.
> As you can see at the top of the table, it is four columns wide. In
order
> from left to right it goes Title, Author, format, and download. With
jaws it
> ends up being a totally massive list of each of the four column fields
> separately for each of the books under each other
> Currently there are over 500 books on the step 1 page, so if you want
to
> read the whole table of books that ends up making you down arrow over
2,000
> times.
> If you know the table commands for your screen reader however, you can
> navigate a lot easier by simply reading down the column of interest. I
> personally validate books of any author and format, so primarily only
look
> at the title column. However, if you typically find organizing the
books by
> format or something else, you can still do that at the top of course,
but
> learning the screenreader navigation commands is really helpful in
addition.
> I can't think of the Window-Eyes command , but what I do with JAWS is
move
> to the top of the table, and then use the next cell in column command,
which
> is control alt down arrow and it simply reads down the title column
and
> skips over all the other unimportant stuff.
> If the other stuff in fact is important to you, there is also another
> command: Windows button and the down arrow. This one is great because
it
> will down arrow once, and read that row for all four columns of a book
in a
> single keystroke.
> Exampling, if you don't use any table commands, with jaws it will list
a
> single book on four separate lines:
> Mrs. Jeffries Stalks The Hunter
> Emily Brightwell
> RTF (Rich Text Format)
> Download
> If you move to anywhere in the column you want to read, in this case
the
> title field, Mrs. Jeffries Stalks The Hunter,
> and then use the first keystroke I mentioned, control alt down arrow,
it
> will jump you over the three other lines and jump you directly to the
next
> book, A Crown Disowned.
> I know most of us don't have all the OCR programs, so in this case it
is
> necessary to hear the format information, so they might be better off
using
> the second keystroke suggestion.
> Starting from the same place mentioned above, if my curser was on the
title,
> Mrs. Jeffries Stalks The Hunter, and then I pushed Windows down arrow,
it
> will move to and read all four columns of the following book:
> A Crown Disowned Andre Norton and Sasha Miller RTF (Rich Text Format)
> Download
> Using either of these keystrokes not only makes things easier to
follow, but
> it also eliminates 75% of your keystrokes used. Maybe in a small table
it's
> not a big deal, but especially on the step 1 page which is often over
500,
> or recently over 600 books long, chopping that down from more than
2500
> keystrokes you will notice the difference immensely.
> Just a suggestion..
> Tiffany
>
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:31 AM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Web Site Suggestions
>
> Regarding the validation or step one download page, I'd like to see
the
> titles of books as links, rather than having all those download links
> separately. Just have a sentence stating that you click on the title
to
> access its download page. If this were done, one could quickly tab
through
> the titles on the download list.
> Mary
>
>
>
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