[bksvol-discuss] Re: Three Asterisks: An explanation from the staff
- From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 13:12:46 -0700
I echo Lissi's comments but Just want to add one thing: if you think the
page numbering is not correct, put in the comments that the book needs a
sighted proofer with access to the print book--or you canput on the title,
"Hold for sighted proofer"
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Jennifer Piening <pienings@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> **
> HI all! I'm a bit late in the game, but I got behind in my email and got a
> wonderful cold besides. I wanted to thank everybody for the warm welcome
> and encouragement. It means a lot to feel like a part of a community like
> this, and I've always loved Bookshare. I want to submit some books that
> somebody scanned on my computer before scanning others, and I'm not quite
> sure if the page numbers are correct. They are books that aren't listed,
> and in my opinion, are pretty good, especially since one is by an author
> with several other books available on Bookshare. I hope that if a book
> gets rejected, I can submit it again, though I'd like it to be fine the
> first time if possible.
> Take care,
> Jenny
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Estelnalissi <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 3:55 PM
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Three Asterisks: An explanation from the
> staff
>
> Dear Jenny,
>
> As a long time proofreader I’m thrilled that you’ve joined the volunteer
> scanners for Bookshare. Whether scanning or proofing all of us made some
> zingers when we started. We improve from book to book and we’re still
> learning as Bookshare gets better and better.
>
> Your mistakes will give us proofers something to do. If scans were
> perfect proofers would get a free ride and then we wouldn’t be needed
> anymore.
>
> We exchange nuggets of information on this list. Though much of what we
> do is standardized there’s still some wiggle room meaning there are many
> roads to a well prepared book so don’t be surprised if you get a variety of
> responses to a question. Your biggest challenge is to get all of the pages
> in order with their page breaks. The proofers pick up loose ends and read
> through the book word by word fixing scannoes and checking formatting. The
> goal is to end up with the most accurate book we can present to the staff
> for approval ensuring Bookshare readers have a great experience when they
> choose books from Bookshare.
>
> It will get more automatic and easier as you go along.
>
> Don’t hesitate to ask questions here and feel free to contact me off
> list at airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx I’ll help you or put you in touch with
> others who can make what looks complicated become pretty simple after all.
>
> Have fun with it.
>
> Always with love,
>
> Lissi
>
>
>
> *From:* Lisa Gorden-Cushman <crysania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 2:48 PM
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Three Asterisks: An explanation from the
> staff
>
>
> Hi Jenny,****
>
> ****
>
> Welcome to volunteering. Just do your best to scan following the manual,
> and volunteers will fix the rest.****
>
> ****
>
> Take care,****
>
> Lisa****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Jennifer Piening
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:53 PM
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Three Asterisks: An explanation from the
> staff****
>
> ****
>
> I am a new volunteer, and all I have to say is wow! This whole
> asterisk issue sounds really overwhelming! I'm going to begin with
> scanning books, and I'm wondering if we make some mistakes along the way,
> will we get penalized or will we be given a chance to get better as we go?
> Is it OK if we don't get all of these rules incorporated into the scans and
> the proofreaders might have to correct some of our mistakes? Before we
> officially had to volunteer, I submitted some scans, and I think one of
> them got rejected, and now I know why. It was because of page breaks.
> With all of these rules, though, I'm feeling a bit intimidated by it all.
> ****
>
> Jenny****
>
> ----- Original Message ----- ****
>
> *From:* Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> ****
>
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ****
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:49 PM****
>
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Three Asterisks: An explanation from the
> staff****
>
> ****
>
> page break, page number then if there are blank lines before chapter
> title, *** in the space then chapter title, and thenif there are blank
> lines before the txt, ***
>
> THQT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND.****
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Martha Rafter <mlhr@xxxxxxx> wrote:****
>
> Hi Madeleine,****
>
> Thanks for this, but I think I’m either confused or really, really
> dense! [image: Smile] Don’t we need to put in a blank line between the
> page break and the chapter heading any more? Then it would be:****
>
> ****
>
> Page break****
>
> blank line****
>
> Chapter heading****
>
> * * *****
>
> text of page****
>
> ****
>
> Again, thanks you!****
>
> Marty****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* Madeleine Linares <Madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ****
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 04, 2012 5:43 PM****
>
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ****
>
> *Cc:* mailto:cynthr@xxxxxxxxxxx <cynthr@xxxxxxxxxxx> ****
>
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Three Asterisks: An explanation from the staff
> ****
>
> ****
>
> Hello everyone,****
>
> ****
>
> My sincere apologies for my delayed response re. asterisks but here is
> what’s going on:****
>
> ****
>
> In Braille, neither bolding nor font size changes show up, which means
> that it is really difficult to tell when there is a new chapter or section.
> Therefore, three asterisks are added after each chapter title or chapter
> name to make it clear where the chapter title or name ends and where the
> text begins. For example:****
>
> ****
>
> -----page break---****
>
> Chapter Three****
>
> *******
>
> [text]****
>
> ----page break-----****
>
> ****
>
> It could also look like this:****
>
> ****
>
> -----page break-----****
>
> [text from ch. 4]****
>
> *******
>
> Chapter Five: Kristy Kills****
>
> *******
>
> [text for ch. 5]****
>
> --------page break---------****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> This is especially important if there is a chapter name. For example,
> Chapter Three: The Woman in Red (or whatever). Without the star, Braille
> readers would have no way of knowing whether or not “The Woman in Red” was
> the first line of text or a chapter title.****
>
> ****
>
> Three asterisks are NOT needed at the beginning of a page before a new
> chapter (if the new chapter starts at the very top of a page) but ARE
> needed if the chapter starts in the middle of the page. Three asterisks are
> also used to show other breaks in the text, whether it’s a change in
> narration and the sighted reader sees a font change or all italics, if
> there is a symbol in the page to indicate a time change or something, and
> when there is a new section of the book (such as Part One or Book One of
> several).****
>
> ****
>
> Many volunteers already do this, which is wonderful. Since we want
> Bookshare books to be as accessible to everyone as possible, we strongly
> encourage adding in three asterisks after the chapter number or name. I
> know there has been a lot of confusion about this. From my understanding it
> is not a new idea, but it has never been enforced, which is likely why some
> people do it and others don’t and have never been aware that they should.
> We want to encourage it going forward.****
>
> ****
>
> Please contact me directly with any questions or concerns. ****
>
> ****
>
> Thank you all so much for your hard work and dedication!****
>
> ****
>
> Best,****
>
> ****
>
> Madeleine Linares****
>
> Volunteer Coordinator****
>
> Bookshare, a Benetech Initiative****
>
> 650-644-3459****
>
> madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx****
>
> ****
>
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