HI all! I'm a bit late in the game, but I got behind in my email and got a wonderful cold besides. I wanted to thank everybody for the warm welcome and encouragement. It means a lot to feel like a part of a community like this, and I've always loved Bookshare. I want to submit some books that somebody scanned on my computer before scanning others, and I'm not quite sure if the page numbers are correct. They are books that aren't listed, and in my opinion, are pretty good, especially since one is by an author with several other books available on Bookshare. I hope that if a book gets rejected, I can submit it again, though I'd like it to be fine the first time if possible. Take care, Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: Estelnalissi To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 3:55 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Three Asterisks: An explanation from the staff Dear Jenny, As a long time proofreader Iâm thrilled that youâve joined the volunteer scanners for Bookshare. Whether scanning or proofing all of us made some zingers when we started. We improve from book to book and weâre still learning as Bookshare gets better and better. Your mistakes will give us proofers something to do. If scans were perfect proofers would get a free ride and then we wouldnât be needed anymore. We exchange nuggets of information on this list. Though much of what we do is standardized thereâs still some wiggle room meaning there are many roads to a well prepared book so donât be surprised if you get a variety of responses to a question. Your biggest challenge is to get all of the pages in order with their page breaks. The proofers pick up loose ends and read through the book word by word fixing scannoes and checking formatting. The goal is to end up with the most accurate book we can present to the staff for approval ensuring Bookshare readers have a great experience when they choose books from Bookshare. It will get more automatic and easier as you go along. Donât hesitate to ask questions here and feel free to contact me off list at airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Iâll help you or put you in touch with others who can make what looks complicated become pretty simple after all. Have fun with it. Always with love, Lissi From: Lisa Gorden-Cushman Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:48 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Three Asterisks: An explanation from the staff Hi Jenny, Welcome to volunteering. Just do your best to scan following the manual, and volunteers will fix the rest. Take care, Lisa From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jennifer Piening Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:53 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Three Asterisks: An explanation from the staff I am a new volunteer, and all I have to say is wow! This whole asterisk issue sounds really overwhelming! I'm going to begin with scanning books, and I'm wondering if we make some mistakes along the way, will we get penalized or will we be given a chance to get better as we go? Is it OK if we don't get all of these rules incorporated into the scans and the proofreaders might have to correct some of our mistakes? Before we officially had to volunteer, I submitted some scans, and I think one of them got rejected, and now I know why. It was because of page breaks. With all of these rules, though, I'm feeling a bit intimidated by it all. Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: Cindy Rosenthal To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:49 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Three Asterisks: An explanation from the staff page break, page number then if there are blank lines before chapter title, *** in the space then chapter title, and thenif there are blank lines before the txt, *** THQT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND. On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Martha Rafter <mlhr@xxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Madeleine, Thanks for this, but I think Iâm either confused or really, really dense! Donât we need to put in a blank line between the page break and the chapter heading any more? Then it would be: Page break blank line Chapter heading * * * text of page Again, thanks you! Marty From: Madeleine Linares Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 5:43 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: mailto:cynthr@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Three Asterisks: An explanation from the staff Hello everyone, My sincere apologies for my delayed response re. asterisks but here is whatâs going on: In Braille, neither bolding nor font size changes show up, which means that it is really difficult to tell when there is a new chapter or section. Therefore, three asterisks are added after each chapter title or chapter name to make it clear where the chapter title or name ends and where the text begins. For example: -----page break--- Chapter Three *** [text] ----page break----- It could also look like this: -----page break----- [text from ch. 4] *** Chapter Five: Kristy Kills *** [text for ch. 5] --------page break--------- This is especially important if there is a chapter name. For example, Chapter Three: The Woman in Red (or whatever). Without the star, Braille readers would have no way of knowing whether or not âThe Woman in Redâ was the first line of text or a chapter title. Three asterisks are NOT needed at the beginning of a page before a new chapter (if the new chapter starts at the very top of a page) but ARE needed if the chapter starts in the middle of the page. Three asterisks are also used to show other breaks in the text, whether itâs a change in narration and the sighted reader sees a font change or all italics, if there is a symbol in the page to indicate a time change or something, and when there is a new section of the book (such as Part One or Book One of several). Many volunteers already do this, which is wonderful. Since we want Bookshare books to be as accessible to everyone as possible, we strongly encourage adding in three asterisks after the chapter number or name. I know there has been a lot of confusion about this. From my understanding it is not a new idea, but it has never been enforced, which is likely why some people do it and others donât and have never been aware that they should. We want to encourage it going forward. Please contact me directly with any questions or concerns. Thank you all so much for your hard work and dedication! Best, Madeleine Linares Volunteer Coordinator Bookshare, a Benetech Initiative 650-644-3459 madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx Join us in celebrating our 10th Anniversary!