I think it will still create the three apostrophes, but they just won't be separated from the words. It will still look better than three dis signs with spaces in between.
Evan----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx>
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That won't produce right in braille, but then I've seen them so many ways in print that I begin to find that my mind is boggled. Cindy Lou Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 11:44 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers I believe we were told recently to make it three periods with no space between them and no space on either side, and so I've been changing them to that. G.Cindy --- Cindy Ray <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:The elipsis is a bigger problem. I thought they were kade in print with three periods togeher ... and that is how translation software translates, or at least mine. If it sees that, then most of the time it translates it into a braille elipsis, which is made with three apostrophes. However, I've lately learned that they are actually made with . . . (spaces between the periods.) I think that was actually taught me in a writing class, but I'm not sure. So, if you want to make it right or the braille readers, you just about have to make it wrong for print readers. I have a problem with this, but I do see this as a problem much thornier and more about compromising a book if that is how you are really supposed to write one of those. Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.----- Original Message ----- From: "Devorah Greenstein" <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 8:50 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers It took me a matter of seconds to replace all my em dashes with hyphen hyphen with no spaces. So I will happily continue to do that as part of validating. Now another question. What about ellipses in Braille? That's the three periods in a row. And what happens with bullets? My next book has bullets. Is Braille happy with them? Thanks, Devorah -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:03 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers Hi Allison, I'll add here that the bookshare conversion tools will turn the em dash, which should be represented in braille by two hyphens side by side with no surrounding spaces to a single hyphen unless you replace the em dashes in your books with two hyphens. This discussion comes up again and again and I, personally, want, especially, the books that I submit that are geared to non-adults to come out in accurate braille. I want young readers never to think that the appropriate representation of a pause in writing should be by typing a hyphen which they might, if em dashes are not replaced with double hyphens. Just myopinion again and again. Peace, Mayrie At 02:08 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote: >In braille the thing should read as two hyphens with no s[paces >between the two words so one--two is how it should read. > >Cindy > >Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Allison Hilliker" <bookshare_girl@xxxxxxx> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:39 PM >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Question for Braille Readers > > >Hi everyone, > >Quick question for Braille-readers. I do read Braille myself, but >I've >never paid attention to this issue before. I'm validating a book >with >a lot >of em dashes. They look like this. - They usually connect two words >like >this. word1-word2. They do not usually have spaces around them. In >the >past I have left them as is in the books I validate. > >My question is, should I be doing anything special with the em dashes >in >order to make them easily read in Braille? I've never known there to >be a >special Braille character for the em dash, but there may be one. >Does >it >just look >like a regular dash, or something else? Do they appear with spaces >around >them or not? Would most of you prefer me to add spaces, change the >em >dashes to regular dashes, leave them alone, or something else? > >Thanks for any feedback you can give. > >Best, > >Allison > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a >list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the >subject line. > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a >list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. 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