[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:44:16 -0700 (PDT)
I believe we were told recently to make it three
periods with no space between them and no space on
either side, and so I've been changing them to that.
G.Cindy
--- Cindy Ray <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The elipsis is a bigger problem. I thought they were
> kade in print
> with three periods togeher ... and that is how
> translation software
> translates, or at least mine. If it sees that, then
> most of the time
> it translates it into a braille elipsis, which is
> made with three
> apostrophes. However, I've lately learned that they
> are actually made
> with . . . (spaces between the periods.) I think
> that was actually
> taught me in a writing class, but I'm not sure. So,
> if you want to
> make it right or the braille readers, you just about
> have to make it
> wrong for print readers. I have a problem with this,
> but I do see this
> as a problem much thornier and more about
> compromising a book if that
> is how you are really supposed to write one of
> those.
>
> Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Devorah Greenstein" <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 8:50 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille
> Readers
>
>
> It took me a matter of seconds to replace all my em
> dashes with hyphen
> hyphen with no spaces. So I will happily continue to
> do that as part
> of
> validating. Now another question. What about
> ellipses in Braille?
> That's
> the three periods in a row. And what happens with
> bullets? My next
> book
> has bullets. Is Braille happy with them?
>
> Thanks,
> Devorah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:03 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille
> Readers
>
> Hi Allison,
>
> I'll add here that the bookshare conversion
> tools will turn
> the em dash, which should be represented in braille
> by two hyphens
> side by side with no surrounding spaces to a single
> hyphen unless you
> replace the em dashes in your books with two
> hyphens. This
> discussion comes up again and again and I,
> personally, want,
> especially, the books that I submit that are geared
> to non-adults to
> come out in accurate braille. I want young readers
> never to think
> that the appropriate representation of a pause in
> writing should be
> by typing a hyphen which they might, if em dashes
> are not replaced
> with double hyphens.
>
> Just myopinion again and again.
>
> Peace,
> Mayrie
>
> At 02:08 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote:
> >In braille the thing should read as two hyphens
> with no s[paces
> >between the two words so one--two is how it should
> read.
> >
> >Cindy
> >
> >Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Allison Hilliker" <bookshare_girl@xxxxxxx>
> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:39 PM
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Question for Braille
> Readers
> >
> >
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >Quick question for Braille-readers. I do read
> Braille myself, but
> >I've
> >never paid attention to this issue before. I'm
> validating a book
> >with
> >a lot
> >of em dashes. They look like this. - They usually
> connect two words
> >like
> >this. word1-word2. They do not usually have spaces
> around them. In
> >the
> >past I have left them as is in the books I
> validate.
> >
> >My question is, should I be doing anything special
> with the em dashes
> >in
> >order to make them easily read in Braille? I've
> never known there to
> >be a
> >special Braille character for the em dash, but
> there may be one.
> >Does
> >it
> >just look
> >like a regular dash, or something else? Do they
> appear with spaces
> >around
> >them or not? Would most of you prefer me to add
> spaces, change the
> >em
> >dashes to regular dashes, leave them alone, or
> something else?
> >
> >Thanks for any feedback you can give.
> >
> >Best,
> >
> >Allison
> >
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