MessageWow! Of course, with the nature of Bookshare, I shouldn't be surprised that someone would be doing this, but maybe I'm too honest? *smile* Since you've been kicked off the list, what kinds of measures can you take or are you taking to find out who's doing this? I'm sorry it has come to this and can definitely understand your feelings on the matter. Take care. Julie Morales To be in your children's memories tomorrow, you need to be in their lives today. -- Unknown mercy421@xxxxxxxxxxx Windows/MSN Messenger (but not email): mercy0421@xxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:04 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Pirate lists and Bookshare.org I had an interesting experience this last weekend while heading to Tunisia to speak on building a global library for people with print disabilities (will post a link to my talk on my blog shortly). I had heard that there was a list that posts ebooks for blind people, and I signed up for it. I was quickly kicked off, but not before I found out that people were sharing Bookshare.org books freely through this list. Now, I was aware long before Bookshare.org was created that print-disabled people were sharing books that they had scanned. I don't have a problem with it, whatever its legal status is. But, when someone shares a Bookshare.org book on such a list, that's a problem. Our deal with publishers is that we take copyright law seriously, and they give us a fair amount of freedom to pursue our mission. Our digital rights management strategy is designed to give our users tremendous flexibility to use the books for each person's needs. We call it a "weak locks, strong social pressure" model. But, it means that we have to suspend folks who we find out have been violating our agreement with them to not share Bookshare.org books. Not all publishers like what we do. One person at a leading publisher has been torpedoing the national conversation around accessible books by claiming that we and RFB&D are dishonest. This has been only partially successful, because we have a reputation for taking our obligations seriously. I used to be able to claim I was not aware of Bookshare.org books being shared illegally. No longer. And, we are obligated to take action to police this, efforts I'd rather be spending on improving Bookshare.org and expanding our collection. We have been working for over a year to get access to the giant book scanning projects being operated by Amazon and Google. Getting our hands on these books depends on our ability to represent that we are not a conduit for these books to be leaked out onto the Internet. My goal is that people with disabilities all over the world have access to books that is at least as good as that for people without disabilities. I want your help to reach that goal. The most important help we need from you is to respect your agreements with Bookshare.org. Don't pass our books along to anyone else. And, please don't contribute books to Bookshare.org from a source other than your own efforts. These parallel efforts will probably go on, especially for people in countries that don't have laws that provide legal options for access. But, don't pull Bookshare.org into this. We will be significantly hampered in our efforts to build access for hundreds of thousands of people with disabilities if we lose our reputation for respecting our social bargain with authors and publishers. Jim Fruchterman President and CEO Benetech 480 California Avenue, Suite 201 Palo Alto, California 94306 USA +1 650 475-5440 extension 106 Fax: +1 650 475-1066 jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx www.benetech.org The Benetech Initiative - Technology Serving Humanity Benetech is a nonprofit organization