[bksvol-discuss] Re: Pirate lists and Bookshare.org
- From: "Julie Morales" <mercy421@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:42:13 -0500
Hi, Sue. I think, when he said "people on this list," I think he meant the
list he joined where people shared books, but then, I could be wrong. That's
what I read into his message, anyway. Take care.
Julie Morales
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----- Original Message -----
From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:49 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Pirate lists and Bookshare.org
The users are already warned, Cindy. It is written in the agreement we sign
and also on the "required notices" that are on every book from the
collection that has a copyright. And he said "peoople on this list", or
that is what my copy said.
Sue S.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:48 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Pirate lists and Bookshare.org
> Wow! That is too bad. I honestly don't think that
> anyone on this list violates those rules, but, of
> course, we are a small percentage of members, I
> gather.
>
> It probaby isn't my place to offer an opinion (since
> when has that stopped me? smile) but I do think that
> suspending people who violate that rule for a period
> of time, e.g., six months or a year--would be a good
> lesson and should be done. You've now given fair
> warning--or you could warn the person individually
> once and then do it. Sports teams are now cracking
> down, and to protect bookshare.org, maybe it's
> necssary for you to do, too.
>
> Cindy
>
>
> --- Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > I had an interesting experience this last weekend
> > while heading to
> > Tunisia to speak on building a global library for
> > people with print
> > disabilities (will post a link to my talk on my blog
> > shortly). I had
> > heard that there was a list that posts ebooks for
> > blind people, and I
> > signed up for it. I was quickly kicked off, but not
> > before I found out
> > that people were sharing Bookshare.org books freely
> > through this list.
> >
> > Now, I was aware long before Bookshare.org was
> > created that
> > print-disabled people were sharing books that they
> > had scanned. I don't
> > have a problem with it, whatever its legal status
> > is. But, when someone
> > shares a Bookshare.org book on such a list, that's a
> > problem. Our deal
> > with publishers is that we take copyright law
> > seriously, and they give
> > us a fair amount of freedom to pursue our mission.
> > Our digital rights
> > management strategy is designed to give our users
> > tremendous flexibility
> > to use the books for each person's needs. We call
> > it a "weak locks,
> > strong social pressure" model. But, it means that
> > we have to suspend
> > folks who we find out have been violating our
> > agreement with them to not
> > share Bookshare.org books.
> >
> > Not all publishers like what we do. One person at a
> > leading publisher
> > has been torpedoing the national conversation around
> > accessible books by
> > claiming that we and RFB&D are dishonest. This has
> > been only partially
> > successful, because we have a reputation for taking
> > our obligations
> > seriously. I used to be able to claim I was not
> > aware of Bookshare.org
> > books being shared illegally. No longer. And, we
> > are obligated to take
> > action to police this, efforts I'd rather be
> > spending on improving
> > Bookshare.org and expanding our collection.
> >
> > We have been working for over a year to get access
> > to the giant book
> > scanning projects being operated by Amazon and
> > Google. Getting our
> > hands on these books depends on our ability to
> > represent that we are not
> > a conduit for these books to be leaked out onto the
> > Internet.
> >
> > My goal is that people with disabilities all over
> > the world have access
> > to books that is at least as good as that for people
> > without
> > disabilities. I want your help to reach that goal.
> > The most important
> > help we need from you is to respect your agreements
> > with Bookshare.org.
> > Don't pass our books along to anyone else. And,
> > please don't contribute
> > books to Bookshare.org from a source other than your
> > own efforts. These
> > parallel efforts will probably go on, especially for
> > people in countries
> > that don't have laws that provide legal options for
> > access. But, don't
> > pull Bookshare.org into this. We will be
> > significantly hampered in our
> > efforts to build access for hundreds of thousands of
> > people with
> > disabilities if we lose our reputation for
> > respecting our social bargain
> > with authors and publishers.
> >
> > Jim Fruchterman
> > President and CEO
> > Benetech
> >
> > 480 California Avenue, Suite 201
> > Palo Alto, California 94306 USA
> > +1 650 475-5440 extension 106
> > Fax: +1 650 475-1066
> >
> > jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > www.benetech.org <http://www.benetech.org/>
> >
> > The Benetech Initiative - Technology Serving
> > Humanity
> > Benetech is a nonprofit organization
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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