[bksvol-discuss] Re: Pictures on unnumbered pages

  • From: Carrie Karnos <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:22:55 -0800 (PST)

That's fine. No problem if someone removes pages from the middle of a book as 
long as the page numbering is preserved. My problem is when someone deletes 
blank pages 8 and 9, so page 7 is immediately followed by page 10.  When I look 
at the book in the approval queue, the page numbering is messed up, so I return 
it for more editing. If you include pages 8 and 9, and put [blank page] on 
them, then I'm a happy camper. I'll approve the book.

Thanks for asking me to clarify! Carrie

From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 3:57:26 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Pictures on unnumbered pages


My impression was that these pages (the picture page and blank page) would NOT 
alter current numbering.  In other words, it was like this:
p 6 text
picture page
blank page
p 7 text

Kind of like picture inserts.



On Jan 22, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Carrie Karnos wrote:

No please, don't omit unnumbered pages! It throws the page numbering off. 
Please keep the blank pages, put a page number on them, and either [blank page] 
or a description of the image. Here's a section from the Volunteer manual:
>Do Not Remove Blank Pages If Page Numbering Will Be Affected
>Blank pages are often found in the following places in books:
>       * After the Table of Contents
>       * After the Dedication
>       * After the Acknowledgments
>       * After pages which identify a section of the book as Part I, Part II, 
> etc.
>       * Between chapters
>       * Before the Glossary
>       * Before the Index
>       * Before the appendices
>Blank pages should only be removed if doing so does not affect a book's page 
>numbering. For example, it is sometimes obvious that a blank page is page 85 
>because the page before it is numbered 84 and the page after it is numbered 
>86. In this instance, the blank page should not be removed, and it may be 
>helpful to add the page number to the page to help prevent it from 
>accidentally being lost when converting the file to a different format, 
>accidentally being removed by a volunteer during proofreading, mis-numbered by 
>the tool which processes page numbers for DAISY books, or by the tool 
>responsible for identifying original page numbers in BRF books.
>Note that books often begin numbering pages with the first page of the main 
>content, but page numbering can also begin with the first page of a book. When 
>numbering begins with the first page of the book, then blank pages should be 
>included in the front of the book to preserve page numbering.
>Some books will have photos, advertisements, or other material in the middle 
>of the book. Remove these pages only if they do not disrupt the page numbers. 
>Many times the pages on each side of the material will be sequential (for 
>example, page 112, six pages, page 113). In this case, please remove the pages 
>from the scan to preserve page numbering.
>Thanks! Carrie
From: Kathy Hester <kathyruth@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 1:19:48 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Pictures on unnumbered pages
>Since the pages wouldn't affect the consecutive numbering, couldn't they 
>just be omitted?  If you prefer to put them in, you could just put them in 
>at the end of the book with a small note saying that they were on unnumbered 
>pages, and gather all the captions together on one page, not mentioning the 
>blank pages, so that the book wouldn't have so many pages added to what its 
>numbering suggests.  I would think that would be permissible since the pages 
>are not numbered.
>Good luck with it.
>> "The LORD bless you and keep you;
>> the LORD make His face shine upon you
>> and be gracious to you;
>> the LORD turn His face toward you
>> and give you peace."
>> Numbers 6:24-26
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Melissa Smith" <mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx>
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:43 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Pictures on unnumbered pages
>I'm currently working on a book from the 1930's. There are pictures
>scattered through out the book, but the pages that they appear on are
>not numbered. Also, the facing page is blank and unnumbered. For
>example, page 6 with text, unnumbered page with picture, unnumbered
>blank page, page 7 with text. I have 2 questions. First, would you
>eliminate the blank pages or label them as blank? Can the unnumbered
>picture pages be left where they are, or should they be moved to the end
>of the book? I will be doing some other books from this period, and it
>appears that this is often how pictures were handled at that time.
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