[bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers
- From: "Mike and Lori Castner" <mandlcastner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:12:23 -0700
Hi Kerry,
If we have something which is a duplicate to a NIMAC book, that should be kept.
For example, if NIMAC has a Huckleberry Finn, and we already have it from a
nonNIMAC source, we should have them both because of NIMAC's limited access.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Carrie Karnos
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:40 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers
Hi Sue,
Yes, I have had lots of requests for NIMAC books from college students, who
need to brush up on a subject. It's heartbreaking to have to turn them down,
but I can't break Federal laws. Since the NIMAC is a federally funded program,
I have no choice but to turn down everyone who doesn't qualify. If and when the
Feds ever change their laws (don't hold your breath!), then I'd be more than
happy to let people read the NIMAC books. Till then, sorry!
Carrie
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From: siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:28:21 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers
Yoou forgot to mention the NIMAC books, which we cannot download, even if we
would like to review or update some things we learned in school. I wish we had
access to those books.
Sue S., who considers learning a lifetime experience
----- Original Message -----
From: Carrie Karnos
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:20 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers
Hi Christina,
You're right with your explanation but there's another wrinkle that you might
be unaware of. As you said, anyone anywhere can download public domain books,
they're available to everyone in the world.
We have another designation that's called world-wide access. If someone
outside the US joins Bookshare (having a qualifying disability), that person
can download books that have world-wide permissions, but they can't download
books with US-only permissions. Several publishers have given us world-wide
permissions for their books. Scholastic, for example, has told us that whenever
we put a book published by Scholastic into the collection, we can mark it as
having world-wide permissions. So blind children around the world can read
books by Scholastic, providing that their parents or teachers signed them up of
course.
And we have some books that are restricted so that only Americans and
Canadians can read them, but no one else. There's a variety of permissions
available, because some publishers want to restrict their books to certain
countries. Copyright law is complex enough within the US, but when you add on
the copyright laws from the 100+ countries around the world, it's a nightmare.
We have to remain within all US copyright laws or we'd be shut down by the
government fast.
And yes, you're right about volunteers. Sighted volunteers can work on books,
but not download the non-public domain books in the collection.
HTH, Carrie
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From: Christina <greensleeves1@xxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:01:52 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers
Hi, Reggie.
The way I understand it, members can't download books if they're not US
citizens because of copyright laws unless the book is in the public domain.
I don't think this pertains to volunteers though since you can be a volunteer
without being a member. Volunteers can work on books but they can't download
them.
Christina
----- Original Message -----
From: Reggie & Brooks
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:26 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers
Now, that is interesting. Perhaps I have missed it, very probably have
since I am not a real fan of the new site (oooo did I say that? My bad).
Anyway, BKS is, or at least the last I knew, unable to be used by
out-of-the-U.S. people (except public domain). However, outsources from
Africa? Hmmmm! Sounds just a little strange to me.
Reggie
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:02 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers
Daproim Africa is one of the outsourcers.
Bob
“We know the future will outlast all of us, but I believe that all of us
will live on in the future we make,”
Senator Edward M. Kennedy
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Petraccaro
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:58 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Out Sourcers
I looked up a particular book and found that it was submitted and proofed
by the same person, Daproim Africa. Has policy changed or is this one of the
out sourcers?
Thanks.
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