Hi Sue, Yes, I have had lots of requests for NIMAC books from college students, who need to brush up on a subject. It's heartbreaking to have to turn them down, but I can't break Federal laws. Since the NIMAC is a federally funded program, I have no choice but to turn down everyone who doesn't qualify. If and when the Feds ever change their laws (don't hold your breath!), then I'd be more than happy to let people read the NIMAC books. Till then, sorry! Carrie ________________________________ From: siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:28:21 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers Yoou forgot to mention the NIMAC books, which we cannot download, even if we would like to review or update some things we learned in school. I wish we had access to those books. Sue S., who considers learning a lifetime experience ----- Original Message ----- From: Carrie Karnos To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers Hi Christina, You're right with your explanation but there's another wrinkle that you might be unaware of. As you said, anyone anywhere can download public domain books, they're available to everyone in the world. We have another designation that's called world-wide access. If someone outside the US joins Bookshare (having a qualifying disability), that person can download books that have world-wide permissions, but they can't download books with US-only permissions. Several publishers have given us world-wide permissions for their books. Scholastic, for example, has told us that whenever we put a book published by Scholastic into the collection, we can mark it as having world-wide permissions. So blind children around the world can read books by Scholastic, providing that their parents or teachers signed them up of course. And we have some books that are restricted so that only Americans and Canadians can read them, but no one else. There's a variety of permissions available, because some publishers want to restrict their books to certain countries. Copyright law is complex enough within the US, but when you add on the copyright laws from the 100+ countries around the world, it's a nightmare. We have to remain within all US copyright laws or we'd be shut down by the government fast. And yes, you're right about volunteers. Sighted volunteers can work on books, but not download the non-public domain books in the collection. HTH, Carrie ________________________________ From: Christina <greensleeves1@xxxxxxxxx> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:01:52 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers Hi, Reggie. The way I understand it, members can't download books if they're not US citizens because of copyright laws unless the book is in the public domain. I don't think this pertains to volunteers though since you can be a volunteer without being a member. Volunteers can work on books but they can't download them. Christina ----- > Original Message ----- >From: Reggie > & Brooks >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: > Friday, August 28, 2009 5:26 PM >Subject: > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers > > >Now, that is interesting. Perhaps I have > missed it, very probably have since I am not a real fan of the new site > (oooo > did I say that? My bad). Anyway, BKS is, or at least the last I knew, > unable to be used by out-of-the-U.S. people (except public domain). > However, outsources from Africa? Hmmmm! Sounds just a little strange to > me. >Reggie > > > ________________________________ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Bob >Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:02 PM >To: > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out > Sourcers > > >Daproim Africa is one of the > outsourcers. > >Bob >“We know the future will outlast all of us, but I believe that all of us > will live on in the future we make,” >Senator Edward M. Kennedy >----- >> Original Message ----- >>From: Gary >> Petraccaro >>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Sent: >> Friday, August 28, 2009 12:58 PM >>Subject: >> [bksvol-discuss] Out Sourcers >> >> >>I looked up a particular book and found that it >> was submitted and proofed by the same person, Daproim Africa. Has >> policy changed or is this one of the out sourcers? >>Thanks. >> ________________________________ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2331 - Release Date: 08/28/09 06:26:00