Yes, you're right. Please put in duplicates of NIMAC books, just not dupes of non-NIMAC books. Thanks for pointing this out! Carrie ________________________________ From: Mike and Lori Castner <mandlcastner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:12:23 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers Hi Kerry, If we have something which is a duplicate to a NIMAC book, that should be kept. For example, if NIMAC has a Huckleberry Finn, and we already have it from a nonNIMAC source, we should have them both because of NIMAC's limited access. Mike ----- Original Message ----- >From: Carrie Karnos >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:40 > PM >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out > Sourcers > > >Hi Sue, > >Yes, I have had lots of requests for NIMAC books from > college students, who need to brush up on a subject. It's heartbreaking to > have to turn them down, but I can't break Federal laws. Since the NIMAC is a > federally funded program, I have no choice but to turn down everyone who > doesn't qualify. If and when the Feds ever change their laws (don't hold > your > breath!), then I'd be more than happy to let people read the NIMAC books. > Till > then, sorry! > >Carrie > > > > ________________________________ From: siss52 > <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:28:21 > PM >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] > Re: Out Sourcers > > > > >Yoou forgot to mention the NIMAC books, which we cannot > download, even if we would like to review or update some things we learned > in > school. I wish we had access to those books. > >Sue S., who considers learning a lifetime > experience > >----- > Original Message ----- > >From: Carrie Karnos >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:20 PM >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers > > >Hi Christina, > >You're right with your explanation but there's > another wrinkle that you might be unaware of. As you said, anyone anywhere > can > download public domain books, they're available to everyone in the > world. > >We have another designation that's called world-wide access. If > someone outside the US joins Bookshare (having a qualifying disability), > that > person can download books that have world-wide permissions, but they can't > download books with US-only permissions. Several publishers have given us > world-wide permissions for their books. Scholastic, for example, has told us > that whenever we put a book published by Scholastic into the collection, we > can mark it as having world-wide permissions. So blind children around the > world can read books by Scholastic, providing that their parents or teachers > signed them up of course. > >And we have some books that are restricted so > that only Americans and Canadians can read them, but no one else. There's a > variety of permissions available, because some publishers want to restrict > their books to certain countries. Copyright law is complex enough within the > US, but when you add on the copyright laws from the 100+ countries around > the > world, it's a nightmare. We have to remain within all US copyright laws or > we'd be shut down by the government fast. > >And yes, you're right about > volunteers. Sighted volunteers can work on books, but not download the > non-public domain books in the collection. > >HTH, Carrie > > > > ________________________________ From: Christina > <greensleeves1@xxxxxxxxx> >To: > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:01:52 > PM >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] > Re: Out Sourcers > > > >Hi, Reggie. >The way I understand it, members can't download > books if they're not US citizens because of copyright laws unless the book > is > in the public domain. > >I don't think this pertains to volunteers though > since you can be a volunteer without being a member. Volunteers can work > on books but they can't download them. >Christina > >----- >> Original Message ----- >>From: Reggie & Brooks >>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Sent: >> Friday, August 28, 2009 5:26 PM >>Subject: >> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out Sourcers >> >> >>Now, that is interesting. Perhaps I have >> missed it, very probably have since I am not a real fan of the new site >> (oooo did I say that? My bad). Anyway, BKS is, or at least the last I >> knew, unable to be used by out-of-the-U.S. people (except public >> domain). However, outsources from Africa? Hmmmm! Sounds just a little >> strange to me. >>Reggie >> >> >> ________________________________ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >> Bob >>Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:02 PM >>To: >> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Out >> Sourcers >> >> >>Daproim Africa is one of the >> outsourcers. >> >>Bob >>“We know the future will outlast all of us, but I believe that all of >> us will live on in the future we make,” >>Senator Edward M. Kennedy >>----- >>> Original Message ----- >>>From: Gary >>> Petraccaro >>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Sent: >>> Friday, August 28, 2009 12:58 PM >>>Subject: >>> [bksvol-discuss] Out Sourcers >>> >>> >>>I looked up a particular book and found that >>> it was submitted and proofed by the same person, Daproim Africa. Has >>> policy changed or is this one of the out sourcers? >>>Thanks. >>> > ________________________________ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - > www.avg.com >Version: > 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2331 - Release Date: 08/28/09 > 06:26:00 > >