[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Stephen King
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 22:28:50 -0700 (PDT)
Dear Lissi,
I found all that you said here about Stephen King
really interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Cindy
--- Estelnalissi <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Amy,
>
> The Green Mile was originally published in serial
> form of I think 6 parts. Web Braille has it, but the
> parts are named individually which is confusing. The
> book is deeply moving and emotional.
>
> In some respects, King is a perpetual adolescent who
> revels in blood, guts and spewing bodily fluids. He
> writes this because it's fun for him and a
> considerable portion of his readers like the spooky,
> icky stuff, too. But, he can also be very mature,
> perceptive and sensitive. His characters literally
> walk off the pages. Being a chicken, I by pass most
> of King, knowing I'm missing some good reading. I
> like his short stories, The Green Mile and The Girl
> Who Loved Tom Gordon, best.
>
> King listened to books on tape way before audio
> books became popular with sighted readers. He used
> to pay his kids to read books on tape. He'd listen
> to them as he walked the roads in Maine. Soon his
> kids were hooked on reading out loud and he didn't
> have to pay them. He was one of the first authors to
> be deeply committed to mass marketing of audio books
> and he insisted that his books be unabridged.
> Remember at first how most mass market audio was
> abridged. Well, not his.
>
> What I'm building up to here is that through my
> local library I've been literally thrilled to hear
> him reading his books. Part of the pleasure is that
> you can hear that absolute glee he feels retelling
> his stories. He reads as if the story was brand new
> to him. He's as excited, creeped out or moved as
> much as he imagines his most appreciative readers
> are as they listen. Like Dickens, he's absolutely
> ecstatic about reading his books aloud and I find
> his enthusiasm contagious. You can literally hear
> him smiling and like me you might find yourself
> smiling back.
>
> One more thing I admire about Steven King is that,
> unlike some prolific best selling authors, he
> doesn't have a boatload of researchers and ghost
> writers doing the lion's share of the work cranking
> out a slew of books. He writes long hours. He
> doesn't sweat the small stuff. His drafts are rough,
> needing a deal of line editing, but the content,
> structure, all of it, are expressions of his
> imagination experience delight in the horrific and
> his values. When so much of our entertainment is
> hatched by a group mind operating in direct response
> to market analysis, I admire authors who are one man
> or one woman, shows, more than ever!
>
> King writes books he'd like to read himself and has
> a massive niche in the reading population. If horror
> stories were roller coasters, King's might be one of
> the fastest, highest and one with the steepest
> plummets. That's how it looks to me, but I don't
> read much horror.
>
> Scot, are you listening? You are the horror
> officianotto on the list. How would you put King in
> perspective?
>
> Woo. Considering I only really liked a handful of
> his books, I had a lot to say about Steven King. I
> admit I think he's a cool person. It's not about
> right and wrong, but what floats your boat or sinks
> it. Yeah choice!
>
> Always with love,
>
> Lissi
> "My story is finally out there in the ether, a
> self-sufficient organism beyond my control, changing
> shape in every new mind that absorbs it."
> From The Night Listener, a novel by
> Armistead Maupin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Amy Goldring Tajalli
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 1:28 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Stephen King
>
>
> Pratik,
>
> I quit reaking Stephen King after he started to
> sound like a teenage boy who just learn to swear.
> He was using four (and five, and 6-) letter swear
> words as though the had to get them out of his
> system. Now I am not a prude but I like swear words
> where they are necessary and effective aand even
> Lenny Bruce stopped using them when he finally got
> people to understand the point he was making. You
> would be amazed how long the "F" word has been in
> the English language and how little it has changed.
> The only thing that changes is it frequency and I
> hope we have reached the point of oversaturation - I
> certainly have. If you can recommend books like I
> have been reading about recently in these pages I
> could be really tempted to go back to his works.
> The only one I have not packed away is The Stand and
> I have both editions and have read both. Can you
> tell me which book includes "The Green Mile" ? If
> the movie does it credit it is a little gem.
> I have little time for reading anymore since I
> have been a volunteer but If I every find the time
> to finish Les Mis I will be looking for other
> reading material [other than the bookshare material]
> . And I still want to follow up with the Tolkien
> validating I agreed to as well as books relating to
> the period and subjects of Genji. I am amazed and
> how some of you get to do so much scanning and
> validating while still having lives outside of that.
>
> What is a life, anyway?
>
> Amy
> omst
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "k4zq" <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "books ` list" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 12:41 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Stephen King
>
>
> > Pratik,
> >
> > Steve wrote an account of his son's Little
> League team's run for the Maine
> > state championship which is one of the best
> sports novelettes I've ever
> > read.
> >
> > He also has written a memoir called "On Writing"
> which I think is essential
> > for anyone really interested in the art of
> writing fiction.
> >
> > Peace,
> > Ernie
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 11:07 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Stephen King
> >
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Steven King can be an incredible writer when
> he puts his mind to it. A
> >> part of his Dark Tower series is amazing. He
> loses it when he stretches
> >> things too much. A book such as "Hearts of
> Atlantis," which doesn't
> >> contain
> >> the strangeness of some of the other books,
> really brings out King's
> >> strengths. His short stories are wonderful as
> well.
> >>
> >> Pratik
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of k4zq
> >> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:34 AM
> >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Stephen King
> >>
> >> Cindy,
> >>
> >> Steve felt sorry for Cujo, too.
> >>
> >> Peace,
> >> Ernie
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 6:32 PM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: Stephen King
> >>
> >>
> >>>I read Cujo and Misery, and I think he's a good
> >>> writer, at least in those books. I really felt
> sorry
> >>> for Cujo. It wasn't his fault he went mad.
> >>>
> >>> I also read a book of his short stories and
> thought
> >>> they were well-written. Certainly more so than
> some of
> >>> the popular authors, both mystery and other
> fiction,
> >>> that I've read for bookshare.
> >>>
> >>> Cindy
> >>> --- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> If it put you to sleep, why are you going to
> read
> >>>> the book?
> >>>>
> >>>> As far as King goes, the two I read were
> Carrie, and
> >>>> The dead Zone. Carrie was only okay, and
> since it
> >>>> was - I think - his first novel, I cut him
> some
> >>>> slack on that one. But I was especially
> >>>> disappointed with The Dead Zone. He didn't
> really
> >>>> do anything interesting with the precognition
> angle
> >>>> compared to what Frank Herbert or Mike
> resnick did
> >>>> with it. Besides, evil is so banal anyway.
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: k4zq
> >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:30 PM
> >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Submission
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The Synopsis put me to sleep. 'Bout as
> good as
> >>>> Cliff Notes. However, I've read a couple of
> books
> >>>> before, although, not too many, so I think I
> can
> >>>> muddle through.
> >>>>
> >>>> Be careful what you say to me. I got that
> reject
> >>>> button, you know.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry about Steve, Evan. Apt Pupil is just
> a good
> >>>> addition for education in the dark side.
> >>>>
> >>>> Peace,
> >>>> Ernie
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: Evan Reese
> >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 11:57 AM
> >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A
> Submission
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It was just the left half of the dust
> jacket!
> >>>> What do you mean long? It fit in the
> submission
> >>>> form, so maybe you aren't getting enough
> sleep. I
> >>>> just read through it again in a minute or so.
> If
> >>>> you're having this much trouble with a
> synopsis, you
> >>>> may not want to tackle a whole book just yet.
> <grin>
> >>>>
> >>>> I read to of King's works, and I wasn't
> >>>> impressed with his writing ability.
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: k4zq
> >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 8:00 AM
> >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A
> Submission
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Evan!
> >>>>
> >>>> Was that synopsis the entire book?
> Thought
> >>>> I'd never get through it.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll go see if somebody already has it,
> and if
> >>>> not, I'll get it, then I can consult with you
> on it
> >>>> if I need.
> >>>>
> >>>> Btw, If you Ain't familiar with "Apt
> Pupil,"
> >>>> it's an excellent contribution to your
> development
> >>>> as purely evil.
> >>>>
> >>>> Peace,
> >>>> Ernie
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: Evan Reese
> >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:25
> PM
> >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] A
> Submission
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, I finally got it up there. The
> book
> >>>> is called Transcension by Damien Broderick.
> It is
> >>>> Science Fiction. I hope the validator reads
> the
> >>>> comments I put in the form. All of the
> chapter
> >>>> headings, as well as the title and author on
> the
> >>>> title page, are in lower-case letters. I
> hope
> >>>> whomever doesn't decide that they are errors
> and
> >>>> "fix" them.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ironically, after all the recent talk
> about
> >>>> validators reading through submissions, I
> hope
> >>>> whoever does this one does the minimum,
> unless they
> >>>> are familiar with the book. There are a
> number of
> >>>> other peculiarities in the book which might
> be taken
> >>>> as errors if someone doesn't notice their
> >>>> consistency. For example, the chapter
> headings with
> >>>> Arabic numbers are followed by a space, a
> colon,
> >>>> another space, and then the chapter name,
> whereas
> >>>> those chapters starting with roman numerals
> are
> >>>> followed by a colon without the space. I
> really
> >>>> enjoyed the book, but it was a lot of work to
> get
> >>>> into shape.
> >>>>
> >>>> For any who are interested, here is
> the
> >>>> synopsis from the dust jacket:
> >>>>
> >>>> Damien Broderick has been a leading
> >>>> Australian SF writer since the seventies,
> winning
> >>>> numerous awards. His novel The Dreaming
> Dragons was
> >>>> named one of the 100 best SF novels. His
> recent
> >>>> nonfiction book, The Spike, is a
> mind-stretching
> >>>> look at the wonders of the high-tech future.
> Now in
> >>>> Transcension, he brings to life one of the
> high-tech
> >>>> futures he imagined in The Spike, a
> 22nd-century
> >>>> Utopia pervaded by nanotechnology and ruled
> by a
> >>>> benign but coldly objective AI. Transcension
> may be
> >>>> Broderick's best book yet.
> >>>>
> >>>> Amanda is a brilliant violinist, a
> >>>> mathematical genius, and a rebel. Impatient
> for the
> >>>> adult status her society only grants at age
> thirty,
> >>>> but determined to have a real adventure
> first, she
> >>>> has repeatedly gotten into trouble and found
> herself
> >>>> in the courtroom of Magistrate Mohammed
> Abdel-Malek,
> >>>> the sole resurrectee from among those who
> were
> >>>> frozen in the early 21st century, the man
> whose mind
> >>>> was the seed for Aleph, the AI that rules
> this
> >>>> Utopia.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mathewmark is a real adolescent,
> living in
> >>>> the last place where they still exist, the
> >>>> reservation known as the Valley of the God of
> One's
> >>>> Choice, where those who have chosen faith
> over
> >>>> technology are allowed to live out their
> simpler
> >>>> lives. When Amanda determines that access to
> the
> >>>> valley is the key to the daring stunt she
> plans, it
> >>>> is Mathewmark she will have to lead into
> temptation.
> >>>>
> >>>> But just as Amanda, Mathewmark. and
> >>>> Abdel-Malek are struggling to find themselves
> and
> >>>> achieve their potentials, so is Aleph, and
> the AI's
> >>>> success will be a challenge to them and all
> of
> >>>> humanity.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
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