[bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing chapter headings
- From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:07:26 -0500
Hi Pavi and all,
I wonder if someone from engineering could meet with us in the bookshare
classroom to answer questions. I think that would save a whole lot of time.
Just my opinion.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Pavi Mehta
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:50 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing chapter headings
Hi Laura Ann and others
Sorry for the delay in response on this. Carrie and I had a conversation
about it just recently and figured the best and most thorough approach to
understanding how the current converter works as opposed to the notorious
stripper of old, would be to request a detailed explanation from the
engineering team so that we all know exactly how to handle chapter headings and
page numbers etc. I have made the request and as soon as we have that
information we will be sure to include it in the manual as well as on this list
(and the newsletter).
All good things,
Pavi
Pavi Mehta
Volunteer Coordinator, Bookshare
Benetech
480 S. California Ave., Suite 201
Palo Alto, CA 94306-1609 USA
Phone: +1 650 644-3459
pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx
www.benetech.org
The Benetech Initiative - Technology Serving Humanity
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Laura Ann
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 8:27 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing chapter headings
I don't know....I haven't seen a bookshare staff memeber answer this question
yet.
I hope we will get an official word on it sometime soon.
I have also emailed privately trying to make sure I am doing it right so we
don't loose the first line of text to the stripper.
But I haven't heard anything so not sure.
I do the pattern like Mary suggest of blank line, chapter heading, blank line
text.
I insert blank lines at the top of all pages hoping the stripper doesn't take
part of the book out.
I on books that have page numbers leave them and on ones that don't leave
them out.
I prefer the leaving them out due to how it reads when listening to fiction.
I leave them in on non fiction.
I didn't realize that the stripper could take out the text of the book last
year though and have tried Sue's ** to protect and thought someone had said
with the new stripper it doesn't take out the text....
so not sure and not sure either from a bookshare staff on Page numbers vs not
putting them in.
I know listening its not pleasant to hear the page number read twice on the
stream or in a program on the computer from the daisy file when page numbers
are left and I have emailed from the bookshare web site and from my email
account asking if the page numbers are necessary for daisy navagation but never
heard back on it.
I would like to know from bookshare staff how the new site and new stripper
and daisy navagation handles
page numbers
text
chapter headings so they are protected.
what protacall do they want us as volunteers to follow for daisy navagation
I know as volunteers we have ideas and opinions but wondered what the
official word is from bookshare staff on what the preferred way to handle all
of this would be.
This is not addressed in the manual and I hope that the hours we spend on
books protects the text of the books.
Yes, I know its been dealt with here in the past few weeks in long
conversations.
But I have seen only volunteers express opinions but no word from the staff
on how the stripper works and the page navagation works.
HOping for official word to know how to make our books the highest quality.
Laura Ann
At 09:35 PM 3/27/2009, you wrote:
So, Mayrie...
If the page numbers are at the bottom of the page and I *don't* move
them to the top of the page (I almost always do), then the first line
after the blank line is deleted? I did not know that.
Bummed Out,
Marilyn
On Mar 27, 2009, at 9:45 PM, mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hi Everybody!
I downloaded three books from the bookshare collection last night,
one of them a very new addition to the collection, and none of them had any
chapter headings.
In case anyone doesn't know how to make sure that chapter headings
won't be stripped from your books by the terrific (serious sarcasm)
stripper, here is the page formatting that works.
Page break
Blank line
Page number
Blank line
Chapter heading
Blank line
Text on the page
Blank line
Next page break.
I would like to stress that if there isn't a page number above the
chapter heading, the chapter headings will very likely not appear in the
final copy of the book that bookshare patrons download from the collection.
I know I'm probably preaching to the choir here, but just in case
anyone doesn't know about this issue, I thought I'd mention it.
Thanks for hearing me out.
Mayrie
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